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    CG Chins vs. CG Pullups

    I have two quick questions:

    1) What muscle groups do both cg chins and cg pullups target?

    2) When you do a cg chin or pullup, how far apart do you put your hands on the bar? Also, how does the distance between your hands influence which muscles are emphasized in the lift?

    Thanks in advance.

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    back = primary
    biceps = secondary

    I usually go a bit wider than shoulder width, the closer in the more biceps, and further out more lats.

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    if you are doing close grip as you mentioned, I go shoulder width, so I have enough room to get my elbows next to my ribs right at the top of the motion. I also use wide grip to get a nice wide motion to take the bi's out and hit the lats in adduction, wheres you are using shoulder extension in the close grip.

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    The question in the title is a good question.

    Whats the difference or is it just fucking semantics again?
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    This is MY interpretation of it. I can't think of any other way to distinguish a CG pullup and CG chinup. My original thinking was that pullup = CG, chinup = WG.
    But with CG pullup vs CG chinup

    Chinup - vertical pulling motion, on a chinup bar (or anything for that matter)

    Pullup - horizontal pulling motion, we use a smith machine in our gym and have your feet on the ground or a bench, lying horizontally or on a bit of an angle, and pull yourself up, in a row motion.

    Quite keen to hear what everyone else classes this stuff as.

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    I've always been under the impression that chinups are with palms facing out, and pullups are with palms facing in.

    I've been doing the exercise with my palms facing in and my hands touching to target the biceps. Would I be better off just doing curls?

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    I've always thought of a pullup as palms facing away and a chinup palms facing towards you.

    as for what slip said about pulling horizontally on a smith machine with your feet on a bench or whatever, I've known those as a reverse row, pulling yourself towards the bar instead of the bar towards you. I'm not sure what others think, but I was always under the impression of those terms and meanings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    The question in the title is a good question.

    Whats the difference or is it just fucking semantics again?
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    I hate when people call a chin up a pull up.

    A chin up involves raising your body until your chin goes above the bar with your hands supinated (underhand grip).

    A pull up is the opposite. Your palms face you (overhand grip) as you pull yourself up.

    With both movements there should be no swingng motion, your body should remain straight/ rigid. You should end in a dead hang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slip View Post
    This is MY interpretation of it. I can't think of any other way to distinguish a CG pullup and CG chinup. My original thinking was that pullup = CG, chinup = WG.
    But with CG pullup vs CG chinup

    Chinup - vertical pulling motion, on a chinup bar (or anything for that matter)

    Pullup - horizontal pulling motion, we use a smith machine in our gym and have your feet on the ground or a bench, lying horizontally or on a bit of an angle, and pull yourself up, in a row motion.

    Quite keen to hear what everyone else classes this stuff as.
    That's an "inverted row" not a pullup.

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    I never understood the difference between pullups and chinups?

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    Yeah
    Chinup is supinated (palms facing you)
    Pullup in prone grip (palms facing away)

    I love wide grip pullups and close grip chinups.

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    Ah, but is it a chin up or a pull up when you use a hammer grip?

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    When I do chinups I usually go somewhere around shoulder width, give or take a little bit. Pullups I will vary the grip more because it is more comfortable to do so, and I can alter the shoulder articulation involved that way.

    Chinups involve more bicep action than pullups, and you maintain an externally rotated shoulder throughout. When you do pullups with a narrow grip, you start internally rotated, externally rotate, and the internally rotate again for the last little bit of the movement.

    Both are good exercises.
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    Apparently this website doesn't know the difference either

    Weighted Chin-up

    Weighted Pull-up

    Apparently when the palms face you it's and underhand Chin-up

    Weighted Underhand Chin-up


    Anyone confused yet? I've always said a chin-up is palms facing away from you and a pull up is palms facing you. Pull-ups use more biceps and chins use more lats and i think brachioradialis (thinking in terms of reverse curls)

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    You got er backwards. Chins are palms facing you and Pullups and palms away from you. Chins=More bicep work. Pullups=More Lat work

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    I've been trying to figure you Americans out. Here in Australia its a lot easier.

    It's all chinups. We just have wide grip (pronated), close grip (supinated) and hammer/neutral grip. Easy.

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    The weighted Chin-up (the first clip) is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
    I hate when people call a chin up a pull up.

    A chin up involves raising your body until your chin goes above the bar with your hands supinated (underhand grip).

    A pull up is the opposite. Your palms face you (overhand grip) as you pull yourself up.

    With both movements there should be no swingng motion, your body should remain straight/ rigid. You should end in a dead hang.
    Silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Silly.


    And Double D, that 'fucking' observation really had me
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