Cardiooooooo...........

kinkery · 04-22-2007, 07:33 PM

i've read it a gazillion times to do cardio on an empty stomach in the morning. true or false? does it really matter when you do cardio?

Duncans Donuts · 04-22-2007, 07:37 PM

i would say hell no.

**P-funk** · 04-22-2007, 07:39 PM

no. the people who say that are stupid.

24-hour metabolism is all that matters. If you burn 200 calories and I burn 200 calories and you didn't eat any food but I did, does it matter? No, we both burned 200 calories.

kinkery · 04-22-2007, 07:40 PM

good point. i'll just do 2 sessions of sprints or HIIT cardio and 1 session of 30min cardio

Malley · 04-22-2007, 07:43 PM

Who was the first to come out with that anyways? I remember Bill Philips and "Body For Life" said that.

**P-funk** · 04-22-2007, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Who was the first to come out with that anyways? I remember Bill Philips and "Body For Life" said that.

most of the myths we have in this industry are from bodybuilding. I would assume it came out of the 50s or 60s.

Duncans Donuts · 04-22-2007, 07:51 PM

try running in a state where your body is in a very negative nitrogen balance and you will lose muscle, i assure you.

Malley · 04-22-2007, 07:51 PM

I actually did this years ago. And I can tell you from experience it is a horrible idea! I was tired for about 2 hours after each cardio session! I lost weight, but it wasnt good weight! Now it couldve been from many different variables, but this sure didnt do me any good!

kinkery · 04-22-2007, 08:07 PM

ok... what would you suggest for sprints? 10-10yard sprints or 10-20yard sprints or what... i just did 10 10yard sprints outisde and it wasn't too bad. i didnt know how long i was resting between sprints but it was under 20sec for sure.

Duncans Donuts · 04-22-2007, 08:08 PM

I like interval training...5 minute jog followed by all out sprint. Repeat.

Malley · 04-22-2007, 08:10 PM

Yes that or interval training what Duncan suggested. Both are excellent!

danny81 · 04-22-2007, 08:45 PM

i like 400 meter sprints.

Malley · 04-22-2007, 08:48 PM

No thank you.

danny81 · 04-22-2007, 09:10 PM

lol. are 10 yards good? because im thinking about it doesnt that take like an hour?

kinkery · 04-22-2007, 09:11 PM

10 yards is 33 feet. not very far.

**Jodi** · 04-22-2007, 09:12 PM

For everyday health and weight loss or maintenance I think fasted cardio is a waste. Your body is catabolic and by doing cardio you are heading deeper into a catabolic state. Not to mention that in the AM your cortisol is high and by adding cardio without eating, you are stressing your body out and increasing your cortisol even more. So, in the long run, it's counterproductive.

However, there is a time and place for fasted cardio if you are a competitor.

danny81 · 04-22-2007, 09:35 PM

kinkery sorry for the misunderstanidng. i meant like if you do 10 yard sprints then your gonna be doing like 400 of them b4 u get tired.

Malley · 04-22-2007, 09:37 PM

Danny just do what is comfortable for you. Dont push it to hard. But do enough to lead you to your goal. I do them for increased speed, help to lean out a bit, and to work on technique.

danny81 · 04-22-2007, 10:29 PM

alright thanks. how many do you do?

Malley · 04-22-2007, 10:30 PM

I do 10-15 sprints of 25-40 yards, but work up to it.

danny81 · 04-22-2007, 11:20 PM

i do like 4 sprints of 200 do you think thats good or should i do like 8 of 100

juggernaut2005 · 04-23-2007, 01:05 PM

I just got a treadmill and will be doing 30-45mins of cardio in the AM at a time I usually take my first meal.. Would it be beneficial to sip my shake before working out (like 5-10mins before?) or as I work out? or immediately after (empty stomach)

04-22-2007, 07:33 PM	#1
kinkery Make them want to be you! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 998	Cardiooooooo........... i've read it a gazillion times to do cardio on an empty stomach in the morning. true or false? does it really matter when you do cardio?

04-22-2007, 07:37 PM	#2
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	i would say hell no.
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04-22-2007, 07:39 PM	#3
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,570	no. the people who say that are stupid. 24-hour metabolism is all that matters. If you burn 200 calories and I burn 200 calories and you didn't eat any food but I did, does it matter? No, we both burned 200 calories.
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04-22-2007, 07:43 PM	#5
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,020	Who was the first to come out with that anyways? I remember Bill Philips and "Body For Life" said that.
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04-22-2007, 07:51 PM	#7
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	try running in a state where your body is in a very negative nitrogen balance and you will lose muscle, i assure you.
	"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

04-22-2007, 07:40 PM	#4
kinkery Make them want to be you! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 998	good point. i'll just do 2 sessions of sprints or HIIT cardio and 1 session of 30min cardio

04-22-2007, 08:07 PM	#9
kinkery Make them want to be you! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 998	ok... what would you suggest for sprints? 10-10yard sprints or 10-20yard sprints or what... i just did 10 10yard sprints outisde and it wasn't too bad. i didnt know how long i was resting between sprints but it was under 20sec for sure.

04-22-2007, 08:08 PM	#10
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	I like interval training...5 minute jog followed by all out sprint. Repeat.
	"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

04-22-2007, 08:10 PM	#11
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,020	Yes that or interval training what Duncan suggested. Both are excellent!
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04-22-2007, 08:45 PM	#12
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	i like 400 meter sprints.
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04-22-2007, 08:48 PM	#13
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,020	No thank you.
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04-22-2007, 09:10 PM	#14
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	lol. are 10 yards good? because im thinking about it doesnt that take like an hour?
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04-22-2007, 09:11 PM	#15
kinkery Make them want to be you! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 998	10 yards is 33 feet. not very far.

04-22-2007, 09:12 PM	#16
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	For everyday health and weight loss or maintenance I think fasted cardio is a waste. Your body is catabolic and by doing cardio you are heading deeper into a catabolic state. Not to mention that in the AM your cortisol is high and by adding cardio without eating, you are stressing your body out and increasing your cortisol even more. So, in the long run, it's counterproductive. However, there is a time and place for fasted cardio if you are a competitor.

04-22-2007, 09:35 PM	#17
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	kinkery sorry for the misunderstanidng. i meant like if you do 10 yard sprints then your gonna be doing like 400 of them b4 u get tired.
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04-22-2007, 09:37 PM	#18
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,020	Danny just do what is comfortable for you. Dont push it to hard. But do enough to lead you to your goal. I do them for increased speed, help to lean out a bit, and to work on technique.
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04-22-2007, 10:29 PM	#19
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	alright thanks. how many do you do?
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04-22-2007, 10:30 PM	#20
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,020	I do 10-15 sprints of 25-40 yards, but work up to it.
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04-22-2007, 11:20 PM	#21
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	i do like 4 sprints of 200 do you think thats good or should i do like 8 of 100
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04-23-2007, 01:05 PM	#22
juggernaut2005 The F.u.t.u.r.e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MA Posts: 617	I just got a treadmill and will be doing 30-45mins of cardio in the AM at a time I usually take my first meal.. Would it be beneficial to sip my shake before working out (like 5-10mins before?) or as I work out? or immediately after (empty stomach)
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