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    Muscle soreness Vs indestructible chest!

    Yesterday I did a big chest workout, but this morning (like most mornings after a chest workout) my chest isn't sore. It doesn't feel like I worked it out at all.

    Last night I did decline DB presses, machine fly press, incline BB press, DB decline fly press and decline BB press (on smith machine). By the end of the workout I couldn't move the BB on the smith machine a single inch. My chest muscles were completely shot, even with lighter weights. I'd used heavy weights throughout the workout to ensure that my chest would get as pumped/torn-up as possible. I ran the rack (down through the weights)near the end of the workout because I was failing too quick with the heavy weights I was initially using.

    How can it be then, that my chest isn't even a little bit sore today? If I train my legs really hard, then they hurt the next day. If I do arms, then they hurt the next day.

    So what's the deal with my chest never getting sore? I exercise it with the same high intensity as any other body part. It's always pushed to failure, but it's never (well, rarely) even a tiny bit sore the next day?

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    Also, I caught sight of a small article yesterday that said muscle soreness is not a good indicator of muscle growth. I didn't have time to stop and read the whole thing (I was at work) but now I'm wondering... Is that true? If I do a workout and I'm sore the next day I always conclude that I did some good (i.e. Did something that will lead to muscle growth). Similarly, if I do a workout and the next day I feel nothing, I conclude that I didn't use enough intensity/weight/reps/sets (or something) to have done any good (i.e. accomplished any growth).

    Any thoughts? Does the pain mean growth, or is my pain-free chest growing just as fast as my arms and legs that hurt the day after a workout?

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    Muscle soreness is not positively related to hyperthrophy, so don't worry.

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    have you switched up your training

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    What kind of tempo do you use? I read that slower negatives will cause more micor tears in the muscles leading to greater DOMS. I did 2 sets of inclines, 3 sets of flat on Friday and my chest was still sore yesterday (today is fine). I did 4 sets of tris after chest and my tris were also sore as of yesterday. I do slow negatives in the range of 3-4 seconds if that helps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Big G View Post
    Yesterday I did a big chest workout, but this morning (like most mornings after a chest workout) my chest isn't sore. It doesn't feel like I worked it out at all.

    Last night I did decline DB presses, machine fly press, incline BB press, DB decline fly press and decline BB press (on smith machine). By the end of the workout I couldn't move the BB on the smith machine a single inch. My chest muscles were completely shot, even with lighter weights. I'd used heavy weights throughout the workout to ensure that my chest would get as pumped/torn-up as possible. I ran the rack (down through the weights)near the end of the workout because I was failing too quick with the heavy weights I was initially using.

    How can it be then, that my chest isn't even a little bit sore today? If I train my legs really hard, then they hurt the next day. If I do arms, then they hurt the next day.

    So what's the deal with my chest never getting sore? I exercise it with the same high intensity as any other body part. It's always pushed to failure, but it's never (well, rarely) even a tiny bit sore the next day?

    ***************

    Also, I caught sight of a small article yesterday that said muscle soreness is not a good indicator of muscle growth. I didn't have time to stop and read the whole thing (I was at work) but now I'm wondering... Is that true? If I do a workout and I'm sore the next day I always conclude that I did some good (i.e. Did something that will lead to muscle growth). Similarly, if I do a workout and the next day I feel nothing, I conclude that I didn't use enough intensity/weight/reps/sets (or something) to have done any good (i.e. accomplished any growth).

    Any thoughts? Does the pain mean growth, or is my pain-free chest growing just as fast as my arms and legs that hurt the day after a workout?

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    Soreness and hypertrophy are not necessarily related. Muscles don't have pain receptors in the traditional sense so there is a lot of opinion about what causes DOMS. It may be related to level of fatigue, time under tension, the ratio of muscle fibers you have, how long it's been since you performed an exercise, your nervous system's efficacy in regard to training, and so forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts View Post
    Soreness and hypertrophy are not necessarily related. Muscles don't have pain receptors in the traditional sense so there is a lot of opinion about what causes DOMS. It may be related to level of fatigue, time under tension, the ratio of muscle fibers you have, how long it's been since you performed an exercise, your nervous system's efficacy in regard to training, and so forth.
    Could you expand on the bold part, or point to someplace that can?
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