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your sisters better
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are these good maxes?
bench 205lbs
squat 365lbs clean 225lbs deadlift 345lbs front squat 225lbs im 5'8 175lbs |
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Succinct
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Yes.
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Stay puffed, baby.
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i have never maxed out, although i'm not a powerlifter. never did it for football, either. seemed like an utter waist of time.
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"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
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your sisters better
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Stay puffed, baby.
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BFS?
in any case those maxes are good. good stats on the rushes/tds, too |
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"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
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Stay puffed, baby.
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i've found that most high school football coaches know less that nothing about exercise. i'd like to know what a routine for bigger, faster, stronger looks like?
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"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
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your sisters better
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im thinking about starting a journal with that as my program for it. start a new cycle on it starting on monday
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Patrick
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: AZ
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those are good maxes, if they were done legit with good form. Most coaches test their athletes like fucking morons (I see it at the gym when I work out). I am a super strict tester.
The only piece of advice I can give you is run away from your coach and don't let him give you the BFS program. It is a sure fire way to end your career due to poor implementation of the program. |
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your sisters better
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wish i could get away from the BFS but its either that or dont lift. keep good form on squat and dead lift and cleans only thing i have problems with is bench because of my shoulders have started to wear a brace on the right one for more support seems to be helping a little bit.
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Patrick
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: AZ
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what is wrong with your shoulders?
what is the depth like on the squat? can you lift somewhere else? |
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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your sisters better
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right shoulder got torn out in 8th grade wrestling did not realize it untill football when i could bearly move my arm because of the constant pounding on it. left one just dislocates every now and then. for my squats im normaly at 90deg or below. only way i could lift somewhere else is if i saved up to buy my own weights
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Patrick
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: AZ
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90 degrees of what? 90 degrees of knee flexion is not very deep. Are the tops of your quads parallel to the floor?
With those shoulder problems i would probably nix the olympic lifts and stick to plyos. |
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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tops of quatds are parallel. had surgery on the right one over a year ago its just getting it back to 100% thats taking forever. if i told my coach that i couldnt do them he would tell me quit bein a pussy and lift hes a dick
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Patrick
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Location: AZ
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b) if you follow his lead and risk fucking up your shoulder then you are a moron. Nothing like destroying your body for high school football! |
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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your sisters better
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i know my coach is a moron. ive been thinking of not playing because of my shoulders and just running track or playing baseball
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Patrick
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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your sisters better
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ive thought about it but id need the money for it and i dont have that right now.
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5'7" 173lbsl squat:365x2 11/19/07 bench 225x3 1/11/08
40 time: 4.51sec march 10th 07 38" vertical |
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Patrick
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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Patrick
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Location: AZ
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i think in mich. but don't know if he is in your area. i may be able to possibly find someone to refer you to.
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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Patrick
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: AZ
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is that near sterling heights at all?
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http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind!
Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book |
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The kids in football did 70lbs bench press last september, now its may when i workout they are all benching around 90lbs.. for this much time i think thats not as progressive. |
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Stats: Weight: 190lbs | Height: 5'11 | BF: 14%
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Stay puffed, baby.
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I could take a football team and have them do 45 minutes of resistance training a week and have them improve their strength so fast it would be unbelievable. But football coaches will do the opposite, run them into the ground when they are already tired and stressed from school and doing tons of drills and practice.
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"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
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Most coaches are retarded. Ridiculous volume, near every day frequency, and isolation exercises up the ass. I would lie to him and tell him your Dr wants you to do a different program.
As for your maxes, assuming proper technique, those are very good. Don't know if I would be maxing out, especially with the bench and cleans while having a bad shoulder. You can figure out your loads from your 4rm and lower your risk of injury. Regardless, I would lay off the pressing if it bothers your shoulder. I get people all of the time mention their shoulder/s are bad, and when I avoid pressing they downplay the injury like it is nothing. Stupid. |
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