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Old 05-12-2007, 08:11 AM   #1
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Tricep pressdown....what grip do you prefer and why???

I've been looking into this lately. I typically use the V-grip myself. Though I've been entertaining the idea of the straight bar lately. My thought is that by taking the rotation out of the wrist and pushing straight down you would train a different area of the tricep. Fact or fiction??



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Rope, the rest fucks up your wrists.



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Old 05-12-2007, 09:31 AM   #3
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yeah the rope is great, you also have some lateral movement with it.



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Rope. i sometimes suppersett rope pushdowns with straight bar pushdowns
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I like the straight bar palm down grip most but I do my change up with ropes. I don't experience issues with my wrists from a straight bar.

Typically I'll do:

70x10 warm-up
100x14
120x12
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160x8
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I use the v-grip, rope and reverse-grip on a straight bar (not in the same workout, I change it up from week to week). Why? Why not, it hits the tris from different angles and as an isolation movement I don't get too wrapped up in it.
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I tried the straight bar today, and I can certainly do more weight with this grip than the V. I also feel like I am using more of my tricep and less of my forearm.

I've tried the rope in the past and I always turn my wrists at the bottom, no matter what I try. The rope hurts my wrists while the other two do not. Different strokes for different folks I guess.



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im not a fan of press downs all together
there are much more effective ways to hit your triceps, plus cheating on press downs is far too easy. people pile on the weight becaue you can incorporate your chest and use body weight to help.
personally i think overhead rope extensions and skull crushers are the best ISOLATION exercises for the triceps



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I use a pronated grip on a small straight bar. It's not like different variations make much of a difference anyway.



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tricep press downs are mostly a waste of time.



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i agree 100%. skullcrushers
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tricep press downs are mostly a waste of time.
This is true. I never do more than 2 sets of this kind of movement(overhead extensions, push downs, etc.), usually just 1. I often see people invest large parts of there workouts doing them.



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tricep press downs are mostly a waste of time.
I looked at your gallery real quick, and it looks like you do well in the tricep department. What excercises do you do for them???



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I seem to be moving away from the isolation stuff all the time, but I'd say nose breakers and close grip bench are my favorites. As far as pushing down I like the rope, but I've noticed the best tricep development close grip benching for sure.



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I looked at your gallery real quick, and it looks like you do well in the tricep department. What excercises do you do for them???
i read once that he owes most of it to his old skullcrusher routine or soemthing. but let him tell ya
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Damn, I do this exercise once in awhile using straight bar, i cant balance with the others. I also do skull crushers. Meh I'll go read up on this.



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skullcrushers/DB skullcrushers and seated behind the neck db press.



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skullcrushers/DB skullcrushers and seated behind the neck db press.
When you say behind the neck DB press. I assume you mean single arm DB press or as I call them extension. Am I on the right track???



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two arms one dumbell. you want to do the exercises where you can move the most weight. with a single arm overhead db extension (which i dont do) i imagine i could probably do a set with a 35 or 40lb db. with both arms i can use a 120lb+ dumbell.



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two arms one dumbell. you want to do the exercises where you can move the most weight. with a single arm overhead db extension (which i dont do) i imagine i could probably do a set with a 35 or 40lb db. with both arms i can use a 120lb+ dumbell.
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This post makes confirms a new thought I've had over the past few weeks, and now its official. I have a new rule in this fitness game, if it works for me then it works. It doesn't matter what anyone has to say about it because, nobody agrees on any one single point in this weight training/ proper diet game anyway.

For every one point that can be made there are equally as many pros and there are cons.

I personally like the excercise. I understand its isolation, and that isolation is the devil. Even still, it hits my triceps and I can feel it burn. So that to me works and it stays on the list. I was more concerned with the grip, which is how I started the thread. I've been given some feedback, and now its time to put it to practice.



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Sigh nothing, look around.



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