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    I have been focusing on my squats a lot recently and I can squat more than I can deadlift. But now when I begin to push up from my squat I have issues keeping my back straight.

    I work my back out by doing conventional deadlifts and pretty much everything free weight which works my back a bit.

    However I think my back is now my limiting factor in my squats, what can i do. I use it for everything so i dont want to tire it out because it will impact my other lifts. Should i just suck it up and do some hyper's or something?

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    Post your routine, you could be overtraining your back......

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    work out 3x a week, monday wednesday Friday
    Alternate between workout A and B

    A
    3x5 squats
    3x5 bench press
    3x5 Conventional deadlifts
    2x8 dips

    B:
    3x5 squats
    3x5 military press
    3x5 bent over rows
    2x8 pullups

    yes i do squats everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico1st View Post
    yes i do squats everyday
    Why would you do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chico1st View Post
    work out 3x a week, monday wednesday Friday
    Alternate between workout A and B

    A
    3x5 squats
    3x5 bench press
    3x5 Conventional deadlifts
    2x8 dips

    B:
    3x5 squats
    3x5 military press
    3x5 bent over rows
    2x8 pullups

    yes i do squats everyday

    You didnt answer the question at all.

    Your problem sounds like to me your lower back (Core). Do you do core work? Of course hypers are great. But also try planks, bird dogs, decline crunches, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double D View Post
    Your problem sounds like to me your lower back (Core). Do you do core work? Of course hypers are great. But also try planks, bird dogs, decline crunches, etc...
    I agree with DD.

    Also you could be suffering due to to many squats not enough recovery....You are definatly doing to many squats (IMO) maybe drop a set or replace a set with another exercise......eg:

    Session 1= Squats + other exercises
    session 2= core work instead of squats + other exercises
    session 3= same as session 1

    Have you read the training stickies?

    Does your rep range or intencity change?

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    Although I'm loathe to recommend these to someone I haven't seen do them, good mornings are great when it comes to resolving this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp View Post
    Although I'm loathe to recommend these to someone I haven't seen do them, good mornings are great when it comes to resolving this problem.
    Why are they so bad?

    Yes I do core work, i just recently posted about the core work that i do.

    I do many squats because im following this beginning body building routine... i trust it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico1st View Post
    Why are they so bad? It is more of a form issue. Your form needs to be spot on as it is an easy exercise to injure your back with.
    Yes I do core work, i just recently posted about the core work that i do.

    I do many squats because im following this beginning body building routine... i trust it. If you trust it so much, why the questions? Just do the dang begginer program.
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    I would squat one day and deadlift the other day. More isn't always better.
    Like what was said above planks and core work is something you should consider including- rollouts (like with a cheap ab wheel) is another great movement as well as things like hypers. Also, if you have been back squatting foe awhile I would switch to fronts squats for a change- just start light.
    Also, I would do a higher rep day- one day a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chico1st View Post
    Why are they so bad?

    Yes I do core work, i just recently posted about the core work that i do.

    I do many squats because im following this beginning body building routine... i trust it.
    There's nothing wrong with them. It's a great exercise. Unfortunately, the risk of injury is quite a bit higher than a lot of alternatives out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp View Post
    Although I'm loathe to recommend these to someone I haven't seen do them, good mornings are great when it comes to resolving this problem.
    I'm not sure about that... I can GM around 225-255 for reps, no belt, but even when I use a belt on heavier squats I can find myself doing a pseudo GM, at least on my later sets. I think in my case, I have a dominant lower back and it tends to try and take over when I squat and deadlift.

    Another example is I've been able to do a rack deadlift with 500lbs starting about 2 inches below the bottom of my kneecaps (and I felt like 550 would've been possible), but I haven't ever done 440lbs off the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
    I would squat one day and deadlift the other day. More isn't always better.
    Like what was said above planks and core work is something you should consider including- rollouts (like with a cheap ab wheel) is another great movement as well as things like hypers. Also, if you have been back squatting foe awhile I would switch to fronts squats for a change- just start light.
    Also, I would do a higher rep day- one day a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanp156 View Post
    I'm not sure about that... I can GM around 225-255 for reps, no belt, but even when I use a belt on heavier squats I can find myself doing a pseudo GM, at least on my later sets. I think in my case, I have a dominant lower back and it tends to try and take over when I squat and deadlift.

    Another example is I've been able to do a rack deadlift with 500lbs starting about 2 inches below the bottom of my kneecaps (and I felt like 550 would've been possible), but I haven't ever done 440lbs off the floor.
    Similar occurrences for myself, but I still noticed large improvements when my good mornings started going up. Of course, my good mornings are like the same as my squats, which is just retarded.
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