start out real light. with just the bar . get the movement down and gradually increase the weight.
tough! It doesn't even give my back a workout because I give up way before my back fatigues lol, my whole body just starts shaking and I feel every muscle in my body working, the next day my whole body is sore (including abs, and ass) except my back from doing them lol, I am going to continue doing them, and the rest of my body will catch up so that it doesn't fatigue before my back... Give these a try if you haven't, very functional exercise.
start out real light. with just the bar . get the movement down and gradually increase the weight.
I don't find them to be hard at all, especially not for the stabilizers.![]()
their not hard. i do them like this guy does them- Barbell Bent-over Row
hmmmm... I have been doing them with my back parallel to the floor, maybe thats why they seem so tough to me.
I keep my back nearly parallel to the ground, like the starting position of the guy in the vid kinkery posted. I don't move my back like he does though. I stay 99% tight, no momentum.
mike, you should try isometrics with the bobr. Keep the bar to your chest and hold. Don't even let it drop an inch. It's hard, but it worked great for me. I think it would also be beneficial for your core.
if you are parallel it is bad for ur lower back but does work ur core like a motherfuc*er, which explains ur ab soreness. keep ur chest n back inclines but dont curve ur back. make sure u get a good squeeze when u pull the bar up to ur chest/stomach. should hit ur back really well.
I don't do BB Rows... I never feel like I'm working my back/lats, I feel much better doing DB rows, T-bar Rows, chest supported rows etc.
Yes it is Kenwood. Check his journal.
I love bent-over rows, I do them in a Dorian Yates's style, and right now my lats and traps are so sore for doing them hard and heavy, yesterday in the gym!
Some guy pissed me off in the gym though, and that was not cool

...Nice last line.
In any case, a Yates row isnt parallel to the ground and has a supinated grip. Id have to say, I like them a lot better.
Ive been trying to do textbook barbell rows lately, but with perfect form, I am having trouble with fatigue too. Oddly, despite all my stretches, my hamstrings feel tight when I do these.
Might have to go back to Yates...
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yup me too, the whole time I am doing them I feel the stretch in my hamstrings. I think its better to keep doing the textbook rows, because it will help the rest of your body get stronger... but also do another row, yates, or dumbbell bench, so you actually get to work your back... thats what I am doing
Yates rows work the biceps and the traps more, while bentover rows work the scapulae retractors and the external rotators more.
I prefer bentover rows 100%.
I haven't worked this in just yet, but one of my major questions was about the back position and what works best. I see some like it damn near parallel while others use more of a 15-30 degree angle to take some stress off the lower back.
I had planned to start on these this week, perfect timing for this thread.
I do my best to focus on the task at hand, and give 100% in what I'm doing at the time. Nothing else matters except the task at hand.

Oddly enough, I never feel shit in my back, unless its real light weight (135lbs). I can go heavier (I used to row around 245lbs), but even with decent form, I felt nothing. Thinking that my form wasnt as good as I thought, I compromised and hovered between 185-225lbs. Still, no. This is with Yates too, but not so much.
I did however, think that its maybe cuz I was too inclined. When I did do heavy rows, I was always at an incline. Not anymore, but its like a full blown RESET for me.
6' 217lbs (10/18)
Bench 365 (12/3)
Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19)
Squat 370
Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17)
NASM certified 2/06
Journal

Thats what Ive been teeter-tottering in thinking. I like to feel an exercise, but sometimes I dont feel it and I get results. E.g. heavy flat DB presses
Today I will try some heavy rows again with the addition of straps. Its long overdue.
6' 217lbs (10/18)
Bench 365 (12/3)
Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19)
Squat 370
Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17)
NASM certified 2/06
Journal
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