Strange question

tallcall · 06-25-2007, 01:29 AM

When you guys do squats, do you count your body weight in addition to the bar weight and the weight of all the plates? Or just the bar and plates?

Also, if you are doing something like a military press with 35 pound dumbbells, would you say you are pressing 70 pounds?

StanUk · 06-25-2007, 03:13 AM

No and yes.

min0 lee · 06-25-2007, 05:29 AM

My body wieght doesn't count and I am specific when I tell someone how much I use on the dumbells.

Witchblade · 06-25-2007, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tallcall

When you guys do squats, do you count your body weight in addition to the bar weight and the weight of all the plates? Or just the bar and plates? Bar + plates.

Also, if you are doing something like a military press with 35 pound dumbbells, would you say you are pressing 70 pounds? 35 pound dumbell military press

**Gazhole** · 06-25-2007, 06:09 AM

No, your bodyweight doesnt count.

You specify you have used two 35lbs dumbells, rather than a 70lbs barbell.

Plateau_Max · 06-25-2007, 06:59 AM

You don't count bodyweight for any lifting. That would be like counting the weight of your arms when doing bench press, or your forearms during a curl, etc. Just say how much weight you pushed 'cause especially during a squat there are upper body muscles working with you to push the bar, it's not just dead weight.

With the military press thing, like with any dumbell workout just say what weight of dumbells you used unless of course you're doing a comprehensive comparison to your barbell press. If you say to someone you do dumbell press with the 40s they won't even flinch.

**DOMS** · 06-25-2007, 08:10 AM

Like everyone else has said, you don't count your bodyweight. Not even on excercise like Pull-ups. You'd simply express as "BW". If you added a 10 pound plate on a belt, you'd express it as "BW + 10".

KelJu · 06-25-2007, 08:34 AM

you never add your bodyweight when recording lifts. It is, however, fine to do the following when listing and recording weights:

Chin-Ups: BW+10 x 8

You see BW stands for bodyweight, and you can go + or - depending on what you are doing. So, if you were to hang a 10lb plate from your belt, you would do BW+10, and if you used the assisted pull-up lever, and you counter weighted by 10lbs, it would be BW-10.

When I use dumbbells I try to signify by putting an "s" at the end. for example:

Dumbbell Hammer Curls: 30s x 10

The total weight is 70lbs, but the "s" at the end indicates plural, therefor I know later that I was using dumbbells. It is really not necessary because listed in the name of the exercise is "dumbbell", but I am anal retentive about recording my information.

Also, you might end up using a machine with pegs or smith machine, and some people add 45lbs as if they were adding the weight of the Olympic bar, but that is incorrect.

Witchblade · 06-25-2007, 09:28 AM

I've never seen so many elaborate answers to such a simple question, heh.

**DOMS** · 06-25-2007, 09:39 AM

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I've never seen so many elaborate answers to such a simple question, heh.

tallcall made a good first impression.

**CowPimp** · 06-25-2007, 10:01 AM

I actually don't think that counting bodyweight is such a bad idea if you want to calculate a percentage of your 1RM for determining loading. I think this would make more sense. When you squat I have read you move something like 75-80% of your bodyweight.

However, when telling people your lifts or whatever, don't include your bodyweight, heh.

**DOMS** · 06-25-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

However, when telling people your lifts or whatever, don't include your bodyweight, heh.

If only... Then my Squat would be around 490.

tallcall · 06-25-2007, 01:21 PM

Thanks, I understand. I wasn't sure if people would understand that when I say 35 pound DB Military Press, that I mean it is a combined total weight of 70 pounds (kind of strange, I know).

Also, I've been told that the bar on the smith machine usually counts as 10 pounds, I usually ignore the weight of the smith's bar since I think it is negligible.

As a side note, I am so excited that I finally broke into the 50 pound dumbbells on my over-head extensions (feels like a million dollars right now)!!

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