squat question

danny81 · 06-29-2007, 08:39 PM

when squatting i read you shouldnt have to wide a stance if you are squatting for sports like football, basketball, boxing, etc.

i prefer the wide stance not to wide mabyby a little wider than shoulder width apart. is this going to make that much of a difference?

**P-funk** · 06-29-2007, 09:16 PM

your answer lies here

danny81 · 06-29-2007, 09:39 PM

thanks. well as an MMA practitioner i guess i should have my legs a little closer than, but i agree that the gym is for general workouts. and the reason i do the wide is beacause i have weak tendons and the wide stance seems to not hurt my knees. so i figure i will do this for a few months just until i get my base strenght up and my tendon strenght up then i will mess around with the width.

**P-funk** · 06-29-2007, 09:42 PM

how did you come to the conclusion that you have 'weak' tendons?

maybe you are just...WEAK.

danny81 · 06-29-2007, 11:41 PM

oo. trust me i am weak. but i also have weak tendons. i came to that conclusion because my knees hurt when i squat down. also for some reason my upper body is much stronger than my loweer. i DB bench 50 pds 4x10 and i squat 20 pds 4x10

DontStop · 06-29-2007, 11:47 PM

Weak knees is everyones excuse.
I have bad knees...I'm still squatting.

Hoglander · 06-29-2007, 11:59 PM

danny,

try wearing a tank top shirt and cutting off all your hair it might help you bump up to 21 pds 4X10

danny81 · 06-30-2007, 06:07 PM

its not my excuse i still squat. read my ournal i squat DL and do lunges.

danny81 · 06-30-2007, 06:12 PM

hoglander get a fuckng girlfreind you fag. your 43 and you like to troll little kids.

Hoglander · 06-30-2007, 06:49 PM

If you're whatever age you say you are I'm a space alien from the planet Flart.

danny81 · 06-30-2007, 06:54 PM

stfu you pussy bitch you think your cool cuz you can diss someone 1/3 your age over the internet you cant even do it to my face.

Hoglander · 06-30-2007, 07:08 PM

Start a poll to see if you are a real person in the view of others. I'll buy into the numbers and apologize big time. I'll even buy into other categories such as.. "He's just a persona but I like him just the same."

danny81 · 06-30-2007, 07:11 PM

how about you make the poll. and stop being tuff on line. you are obviously a bitch and wouldnt do anythng to me if you met me. why do you hate me anyway

KelJu · 06-30-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DontStop

Weak knees is everyones excuse.
I have bad knees...I'm still squatting.

Same here. My knees pop and grind like crazy. I take joint health supplements, but they don't do much. But, look on the bright side. My knees don't hurt me anymore today than they did 2 years ago. Maybe they will hold up for another 30 or 40 years, before I need knee replacement surgery.

KelJu · 06-30-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

your answer lies here

Jesus Christ P, your writing skills are off the chain. I like your style, because it holds my attention better than a lot of other sports training writers.

Hoglander · 06-30-2007, 07:26 PM

OK danny I'll chill for now.

danny81 · 06-30-2007, 07:33 PM

alright. Kel ju what do you take for your knees? i take 3-6-9 and some glucosamine its ok.

KelJu · 06-30-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by danny81

hoglander get a fuckng girlfreind you fag. your 43 and you like to troll little kids.

That was a nice jab.

danny81 · 06-30-2007, 07:41 PM

lol. thanks.

**P-funk** · 06-30-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KelJu

Jesus Christ P, your writing skills are off the chain. I like your style, because it holds my attention better than a lot of other sports training writers.

wow...thanks.

The Monkey Man · 06-30-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelJu

Jesus Christ P, your writing skills are off the chain. I like your style, because it holds my attention better than a lot of other sports training writers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

wow...thanks.

Witchblade · 07-01-2007, 09:21 AM

Ah jeez man, that pic is gross.

**P-funk** · 07-01-2007, 09:22 AM

it is from his private collection.

danny81 · 07-01-2007, 10:31 AM

i almost threw up when i saw that pic.

Todd Bostrom · 07-03-2007, 12:42 AM

Please excuse me, I have not read the other posts.

When you squat to reach maximal #'s, go with whatever feels the best(as long as you're getting down far enough and you have good back position). You can then go back and use a narrow stance(in the same line as you would if you were running) and either do back or front squats. This will work the muscles more closely related to running.

FishOrCutBait · 07-03-2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

I lol'd

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

wow...thanks.

I Agree with kelju

you write very well

juggernaut · 07-03-2007, 08:46 AM

just wrap your knees and stop acting like a little homo bitch.

Stewart20 · 07-03-2007, 09:31 AM

Hate to break the homo vibe going on here, but I actually have a question about squats, go figure...

I am wondering what are the differences between a traditional back squat and a DB (or trap bar) squat? Is it a huge negative to take the load off the spine? Or to rephrase, is it a good thing to responsibly load the spine?

Are you missing anything by squatting with the weight in your hands as opposed to on your back?

**P-funk** · 07-03-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

just wrap your knees and stop acting like a little homo bitch.

wrapping your knees is even worse! That forces that patella back into the joint and creates more sheering forces. Not good advice at all.

06-29-2007, 08:39 PM	#1
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danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	thanks. well as an MMA practitioner i guess i should have my legs a little closer than, but i agree that the gym is for general workouts. and the reason i do the wide is beacause i have weak tendons and the wide stance seems to not hurt my knees. so i figure i will do this for a few months just until i get my base strenght up and my tendon strenght up then i will mess around with the width.
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06-29-2007, 09:42 PM	#4
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06-29-2007, 11:41 PM	#5
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	oo. trust me i am weak. but i also have weak tendons. i came to that conclusion because my knees hurt when i squat down. also for some reason my upper body is much stronger than my loweer. i DB bench 50 pds 4x10 and i squat 20 pds 4x10
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danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	how about you make the poll. and stop being tuff on line. you are obviously a bitch and wouldnt do anythng to me if you met me. why do you hate me anyway
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06-30-2007, 07:26 PM	#16
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danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,764	alright. Kel ju what do you take for your knees? i take 3-6-9 and some glucosamine its ok.
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