gaining speed?

michael_s1988 · 07-11-2007, 12:57 AM

what are some good lifting exercises to improve speed?........

Witchblade · 07-11-2007, 03:29 AM

What kind of speed?

Doublebase · 07-11-2007, 10:28 AM

I'm imagine running. Could be wrong though. I just want to see what you guys think.

WantItBad · 07-11-2007, 04:24 PM

Squat, SLDL, Cleans, Snatches.............

**P-funk** · 07-11-2007, 04:32 PM

depending on your age, training age, and what your major limiting factors are.....squat, deadlift and fucking sprint.

Double D · 07-11-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

depending on your age, training age, and what your major limiting factors are.....squat, deadlift and fucking sprint.

you are becomming a one line legend!

**CowPimp** · 07-11-2007, 08:44 PM

You want to run faster, or are you thinking of some other kind of speed?

What is your training status (How long have you been training)?

How much can you squat/deadlift?

michael_s1988 · 07-12-2007, 11:10 AM

yuh i meant speed as in running....

ive been lifting weights all through high school....i jus graduated

squat max is prolly high 400's.......deadlift i usually do just 135-150...

yuh i been running but i noticed my legs die out on me fast....

**CowPimp** · 07-12-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_s1988

yuh i meant speed as in running....

ive been lifting weights all through high school....i jus graduated

squat max is prolly high 400's.......deadlift i usually do just 135-150...

yuh i been running but i noticed my legs die out on me fast....

If you only deadlift that much, I'm highly skeptical that your squat is to parallel or better.

Doublebase · 07-12-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_s1988

yuh i meant speed as in running....

ive been lifting weights all through high school....i jus graduated

squat max is prolly high 400's.......deadlift i usually do just 135-150...

yuh i been running but i noticed my legs die out on me fast....

Lawl. I wonder what he benches.

fUnc17 · 07-12-2007, 12:16 PM

High end 400lb squat and you can only deadlift 135? Ummmm, no.

Plateau_Max · 07-12-2007, 01:12 PM

What kind of deadlifts are you guys talking about here? I think straight legged deadlifts wouldn't really help running speed too much.

The classic deadlift should though.

I dunno guy really I would just say work on getting that deadlift to a lot more weight and balance yourself out. Really work on getting a stronger core and RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN like the wind when you train. Deadlifts and Squats will help strengthen your legs, torso, and back in very beneficial ways but the most important aspect is training those fast twitch muscles IE sprinting your guts out.

Witchblade · 07-12-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by michael_s1988

squat max is prolly high 400's.......deadlift i usually do just 135-150...

Welcome to the list of people with no credibility whatsoever.

michael_s1988 · 07-12-2007, 07:27 PM

no where did i say thats is all i can do in deadlift.....i said i just usually do 135-150...i straight leg deadlift on my recovery days....which is usually light weight lifts...

Doublebase · 07-13-2007, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_s1988

no where did i say thats is all i can do in deadlift.....i said i just usually do 135-150...i straight leg deadlift on my recovery days....which is usually light weight lifts...

Yeah but if you squat 400 you would probably DL close to 500. Normally. 135-150 would be your warm-up set.

Rubes · 07-13-2007, 12:06 PM

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michael_s1988 · 07-13-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

Yeah but if you squat 400 you would probably DL close to 500. Normally. 135-150 would be your warm-up set.

again i only do deads on my light weight days...im not gonna stack up the weight a day after 36 reps of high end squats and cleans plus other legs excercises....i dont know if its me but im extremely fuckin sore the day after....i dont go shoot shit in my ass cheeks like some of yall....

michael_s1988 · 07-13-2007, 12:50 PM

i have been runnin a few flights of stairs...im not sure if this helps with speed more than foot work movement....

KelJu · 07-13-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

What kind of deadlifts are you guys talking about here? I think straight legged deadlifts wouldn't really help running speed too much.

Why not? Glutes and hamstrings are essential for running. I don't know about endurance running, but training legs, glutes, quads, calves, and hams helped my sprinting speed by quantum leaps.

I raced a buddy of mine recently. He has smoekd me all of my life at running. I would go as far as to say he was twice as fast as my at the 100yd dash. After training legs over the last 3 years I raced him recently, and we were neck and neck the whole race.

I know you can't call it scientific fact based off of 1 isolated case, so I'll just say I believe it does rather than saying I know it does.

Plateau_Max · 07-15-2007, 12:42 AM

I meant as opposed to the classic deadlift which is more focused on your legs than the straight leg which puts most of the effort on your back.

The greater the synergy of all your leg muscles the better you'll be at all forms of running. So if you're going to train your legs lifting wise it's just like anything else, if you're working anterior you need to work posterior, if you're working a push you need to work a pull..... this is old hat. I don't even know why I bother typing this sometimes

But yeah KelJu I didn't mean they wouldn't help at all I just wanted to know what kind he was doing.

JOSHBUILT · 07-15-2007, 04:17 AM

If you want to know 100% it's fighting asians

how do u think Bruce Lee was so fast? He was Chinese.

AKIRA · 07-15-2007, 06:51 AM

True Story.

Although some boxers werent ever really that good...at all, so who knows.

KentDog · 07-15-2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doublebase

Yeah but if you squat 400 you would probably DL close to 500. Normally. 135-150 would be your warm-up set.

I squat around 300 for sets and only choose to SLDL around 225 or less when I do them, since I don't like to deadlift that much, so although the gap isn't that big between my two lifts, I can see what the guy is saying.

Witchblade · 07-15-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KentDog

I squat around 300 for sets and only choose to SLDL around 225 or less when I do them, since I don't like to deadlift that much, so although the gap isn't that big between my two lifts, I can see what the guy is saying.

You're doing them straight-legged, which is harder for some. Also, the gap is only 75lbs for you. His gap is about 275lbs.

Anyway, how many 18/19 year olds squat over 450 pounds?

michael_s1988 · 07-15-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

You're doing them straight-legged, which is harder for some. Also, the gap is only 75lbs for you. His gap is about 275lbs.

Anyway, how many 18/19 year olds squat over 450 pounds?

half of our offensive and defensive line had a max over 450

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