Corkscrew method

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-17-2007, 09:11 AM

Has anyone heard of the corkscrew method explained in the Naked Warrior by Pavel? I bought the book a while ago, it is really cool and helpful, and I found the corkscrew method to be pretty damn nice as well, considering it springs you right up in a pushup instead of you doing any work at all. Does it actually increase strength since it is a cheating method because I was curious on why it would show it in that book?

If it does help increase strength, then I am definately going to try it out with benching.

**CowPimp** · 07-17-2007, 11:16 AM

Would you care to explain exactly what it is? That is a pretty vague question.

Also, Pavel is a smart guy, it can't hurt to give the advice a try.

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-17-2007, 11:31 AM

Its basically just twisting your right hand clockwise and your left hand counter clockwise during pushups but having your hands gripped hard enough to the ground that your hands do not move at all, but you feel the spiraling in your shoulders hence springing you right up with very little pushing needed.
I think it should have it in some searches on google, if you dont understand. Basically as you move up, do the twisting. Its called the corkscrew because you are screwing the shoulder joint into the socket.

Witchblade · 07-17-2007, 12:35 PM

How is that possible with a bar in your hands? The bar can't be twisted.

**Gazhole** · 07-17-2007, 12:37 PM

That sounds pretty dangerous to me...

**IainDaniel** · 07-17-2007, 12:41 PM

Basically like a push-up plus?

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-17-2007, 02:09 PM

Nothing is supposed to be twisted, youre not supposed to move your hands.
You are supposed to grip something with your fingers hard enough so if you were to twist your hands they would not move, and you would feel the twist inside your arms-shoulders. And you are twisting your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise).

Ok, heres a good tip. With the BB, ofcourse you cannot break the BB in half, but attempt to in your workout throughtout the reps ( as if it is a fragile stick and you are going to snap it in half with your hands).
ANd do the same thing with pushups
And no, it is not dangerous.

Attempt to move your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise) without it actually happening since your fingers are gripped hard to the ground, preventing it from happening. Its not that hard.

Tips like this can be used for enhancing any pushing exercise, even for squats. Martial Artists used this while punching to easily increase the speed and power of it.

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-19-2007, 01:05 PM

Just curious but does anyone want to know or take advantage of this method or does nobody give a shit?

Witchblade · 07-19-2007, 01:09 PM

I'll try it sunday for the bench press. I've heard of it before, but I just knew it as 'attempt to break the bar'.

ALBOB · 07-19-2007, 04:20 PM

You're supposed to do that WHILE you're bench pressing?!?!?

That sounds like a destroyed shoulder or wrist just waiting to happen.

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-19-2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALBOB

You're supposed to do that WHILE you're bench pressing?!?!?

That sounds like a destroyed shoulder or wrist just waiting to happen.

alright then do them with pushups.

**P-funk** · 07-19-2007, 04:39 PM

you mean trying to pull the bar apart?

ALBOB · 07-19-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

alright then do them with pushups.

What's the difference? A pushup is just an upside down benchpress. By trying to twist your wrists while doing a pressing movement it seems to me you're putting your shoulder in a very vulnerable state. I'm not saying it's actually dangerous, I'm just saying it SOUNDS dangerous.

AKIRA · 07-19-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Nothing is supposed to be twisted, youre not supposed to move your hands.
You are supposed to grip something with your fingers hard enough so if you were to twist your hands they would not move, and you would feel the twist inside your arms-shoulders. And you are twisting your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise).

Ok, heres a good tip. With the BB, ofcourse you cannot break the BB in half, but attempt to in your workout throughtout the reps ( as if it is a fragile stick and you are going to snap it in half with your hands).
ANd do the same thing with pushups
And no, it is not dangerous.

Attempt to move your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise) without it actually happening since your fingers are gripped hard to the ground, preventing it from happening. Its not that hard.

Tips like this can be used for enhancing any pushing exercise, even for squats. Martial Artists used this while punching to easily increase the speed and power of it.

Eh. I just dont see the point. Almost like another gimmick to sell.

K.I.S.S.

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-19-2007, 07:51 PM

Witchblade · 07-20-2007, 07:05 AM

AFAIK, it's not a gimmick and it's not dangerous either. Some Powerlifters use it.

AKIRA · 07-20-2007, 08:26 AM

It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn?

It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...

GoLdeN M 07 · 07-20-2007, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn?

It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...

It springs you right up without you having to do any work at all. It can be used for any push exercise, even squats. No one knew about it and I found it out in the Naked Warrior book, found it to be pretty interesting, and shared it with you guys. I basically just wanted to know if it actually does help increase, eventhough its cheating.

Witchblade · 07-20-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn?

It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...

How is using more weight nonfunctional? Powerlifters need nothing else.

AKIRA · 07-20-2007, 11:50 AM

I might be confused as to what the hell the procedure is, but I like to keep it simple.

"If it isnt broken, dont fix it."

ALBOB · 07-23-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

It springs you right up without you having to do any work at all. It can be used for any push exercise, even squats. No one knew about it and I found it out in the Naked Warrior book, found it to be pretty interesting, and shared it with you guys. I basically just wanted to know if it actually does help increase, eventhough its cheating.

If what you're saying is true then it SOUNDS like a technique that allows you to lift more weight without more effort. If you're a competing powerlifter that's great. But if you're interested in body building then it's counter productive. In body building you actually try to make the lift more difficult in order to work your muscles harder. Working your muscles harder is what makes them bigger. This is all just my version of common sense and logic, so take it for what it's worth.

07-17-2007, 09:11 AM	#1
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 540	Corkscrew method BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Has anyone heard of the corkscrew method explained in the Naked Warrior by Pavel? I bought the book a while ago, it is really cool and helpful, and I found the corkscrew method to be pretty damn nice as well, considering it springs you right up in a pushup instead of you doing any work at all. Does it actually increase strength since it is a cheating method because I was curious on why it would show it in that book? If it does help increase strength, then I am definately going to try it out with benching.

07-17-2007, 11:16 AM	#2
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07-17-2007, 12:35 PM	#4
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07-17-2007, 12:41 PM	#6
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07-17-2007, 02:09 PM	#7
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 540	Nothing is supposed to be twisted, youre not supposed to move your hands. You are supposed to grip something with your fingers hard enough so if you were to twist your hands they would not move, and you would feel the twist inside your arms-shoulders. And you are twisting your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise). Ok, heres a good tip. With the BB, ofcourse you cannot break the BB in half, but attempt to in your workout throughtout the reps ( as if it is a fragile stick and you are going to snap it in half with your hands). ANd do the same thing with pushups And no, it is not dangerous. Attempt to move your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise) without it actually happening since your fingers are gripped hard to the ground, preventing it from happening. Its not that hard. Tips like this can be used for enhancing any pushing exercise, even for squats. Martial Artists used this while punching to easily increase the speed and power of it. Last edited by GoLdeN M 07 : 07-17-2007 at 02:23 PM.

07-17-2007, 11:31 AM	#3
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 540	Its basically just twisting your right hand clockwise and your left hand counter clockwise during pushups but having your hands gripped hard enough to the ground that your hands do not move at all, but you feel the spiraling in your shoulders hence springing you right up with very little pushing needed. I think it should have it in some searches on google, if you dont understand. Basically as you move up, do the twisting. Its called the corkscrew because you are screwing the shoulder joint into the socket.

07-19-2007, 01:05 PM	#8
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 540	Just curious but does anyone want to know or take advantage of this method or does nobody give a shit?

07-19-2007, 01:09 PM	#9
Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 4,148 Photos: 2	I'll try it sunday for the bench press. I've heard of it before, but I just knew it as 'attempt to break the bar'.
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07-19-2007, 04:20 PM	#10
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,089	You're supposed to do that WHILE you're bench pressing?!?!? That sounds like a destroyed shoulder or wrist just waiting to happen.
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07-19-2007, 04:39 PM	#12
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,230	you mean trying to pull the bar apart?
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07-19-2007, 07:51 PM	#15
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 540	ok.

07-20-2007, 07:05 AM	#16
Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 4,148 Photos: 2	AFAIK, it's not a gimmick and it's not dangerous either. Some Powerlifters use it.
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07-20-2007, 08:26 AM	#17
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,446 Photos: 3	It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn? It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...
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07-20-2007, 11:50 AM	#20
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,446 Photos: 3	I might be confused as to what the hell the procedure is, but I like to keep it simple. "If it isnt broken, dont fix it."
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