Thread: Leg Press does anyone use it???

Originally Posted by KelJu

See, that was my problem when I was doing them. I wanted to do the most ROM as possible, because ROM is important I thought, but at a certain dept it felt like my guts were being squeezed into my lungs, and my back would be bent like a pretzel.

I see these retards put a 1000lbs on it and do quarter ROM presses, and I think to myself some people are too dumb to be sharing my air.

I see the same assholes loading up a bar at the squat rack then do quarter squats!

I use the leg press for other movements, but I dont seem them as a bad investment in leg strength. Even though I like to go as deep as I can, I stop before my back rounds.

One thing about the Leg Press that frustrates me is that most people that use it, stack way too much weight on and go down a fraction of an inch. It's just like "dude, you're doing absolutely nothing to benefit you right now," but that hardly seems to be the point when he gets up, flares his chest and walks around like he just got laid by Pam Anderson.

If ppl are having form and posture troubles and running risks of injury when using a LegPress as instructed and intended, then it sounds like maybe those seats are too close???.. I'm only 169 cm, but even at a full load.. even wiith my slightly smaller legs .. i love those things!!.. affectionately even. Maybe because I have kyphosis ( exercise correctable lumbar curvature ) and with the lumbar release I can out of it by putting my knuckles down on either side , keepng my butt planted at the concentric peak and lengthening up into my spine. . it feels so bloody good. . good for correcting ab stabilty before the eccentric too.. better than off a chair with the weight addition and the heavier the better. Same for my flexors if I lengthen out of my hips.
I wonder if those seat adjusters can be tailored ?? If I was using a nautilus and that was happening.. I might think about enquiring. Really handy for rehab times, as we all have everynow and then and at concentric peak, a really good opportunity to make the most of a good flexor lengthening and spine and lower back release . Shame you guys dont have enough leg room to milk it.
Damm. Now I want to go work out one:/.

Blooming tianshi lotus.

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I do leg presses, but my method is odd, ...and somewhat unsafe. I do vertical leg presses on my smith machine. I just bring my knees to my chest, and lying on the floor it seems to make it impossible to round my lower back.
Ya know now that I think about it, leg presses and calf raises are the only times I use that machine... maybe I'll get rid of it.
Hey, anyone want to buy a smith machine?

Originally Posted by lucifuge

I do leg presses, but my method is odd, ...and somewhat unsafe. I do vertical leg presses on my smith machine. I just bring my knees to my chest, and lying on the floor it seems to make it impossible to round my lower back.
Ya know now that I think about it, leg presses and calf raises are the only times I use that machine... maybe I'll get rid of it.
Hey, anyone want to buy a smith machine?

I will give you $7 for it.

I could do with a new coat rack.

damn, I was hoping for more.... it's gotta be worth at least $15

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Your form has to be bad. The deadlifts simply don't recruit the glutes in the least.

Back, hams, and quads is where I feel it. My form may be bad, and then again I may be confusing ham soreness for quad soreness. I agree two different muscle, and one is in front and the other the back. Its just a burn and its in that general area.

I aways look myself in the eyes as I do deads in front of a mirror. The entire range of motion my chest and above are parallel with the plane of motion. If anything I think I'm guilty of sticking my ass out a bit far.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

One thing about the Leg Press that frustrates me is that most people that use it, stack way too much weight on and go down a fraction of an inch. It's just like "dude, you're doing absolutely nothing to benefit you right now," but that hardly seems to be the point when he gets up, flares his chest and walks around like he just got laid by Pam Anderson.

I agree 100%.

Ill even go a bit further and express anger about it. All those plates just to move the fucker an inch or so. Meanwhile, I need those plates for ATG Squats.

For a long time I had to opt out of doing squats due to a knee problem. I rested my knees for close to a year. Then started doing 45 degree leg presses only. I finally can squat again, and the leg presses kept my legs fairly well conditioned. Squats are definitely superior, but leg presses are a fantastic machine for doing r/p sets.

Ever notice that the guys who stack on all that weight on the leg press usually can't squat worth a damn, if they squat at all?

Now if we really want to talk about a worthless leg machine, how about leg extensions?

I remember a friend who used to workout religously stacked a shit load of plates on the leg press but never wanted to do a squat. No medical reason either...

He did do full rom reps on the leg press though.

[quote soxmuscle ] Your form has to be bad. The deadlifts simply don't recruit the glutes in the least. [end quote]

Originally Posted by Uthinkso

Back, hams, and quads is where I feel it. My form may be bad, and then again I may be confusing ham soreness for quad soreness. I agree two different muscle, and one is in front and the other the back. Its just a burn and its in that general area.

I aways look myself in the eyes as I do deads in front of a mirror. The entire range of motion my chest and above are parallel with the plane of motion. If anything I think I'm guilty of sticking my ass out a bit far.

Sorry Soxmuscle. I usually agree with alot of what you say, but

[quote Deadlift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] The deadlift is a compound movement that works all of the major and most of the minor muscles in the abdomen and lower body, with emphasis on the Erector spinae, lower back and back, along with the quadriceps, hamstrings, and gluteus maximus. [end quote]


[quote ]Error The leg press works the following muscle groups:

Quadriceps
Hamstrings
Gluteus maximus [end quote]

[quote ]Error The leg extension, also called the knee extension, is an isolation weight training exercise for the quadriceps. It is performed using a specialized machine. The trainer sits on the machine and begins with his (or her) legs bent and with his shins under the lever. He then extends his legs until they are horizontal with the floor. The legs are then lowered to the original position, and the movement is repeated.

As an isolation exercise, the leg extension cannot replace the deadlift or the squat as a core lower body exercise, but can be useful to focus on the quadriceps when used in combination with one of them.

[end quote]


Interesting note to self on your own form perhaps

Blooming tianshi lotus

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I see the same assholes loading up a bar at the squat rack then do quarter squats!

I use the leg press for other movements, but I dont seem them as a bad investment in leg strength. Even though I like to go as deep as I can, I stop before my back rounds.

Last point from me on this, but maybe it's at that stick point you need to release your spine and lower back and hip flexors as I described above and work it as a negative?? I can't imagine not doing that if I was in the same position
( shrug).

Originally Posted by Hoglander

LMAO How many leg machines have you seen?? Many adjust so your back is NOT static. Lets not be so one dimensional here. Adjust here or adjust there... knees bend AND get closer to chest. You can be at 110 degrees on some and have your knees on your chin, FYI. My correlation is far stronger because it covers more situations. So blah blah blah for it son.

I have never seen a leg press with a mobile back pad. It's really the same with squatting: the angle of your hip and knee joint are interrelated, and the setup (Assuming consistent form on the squat) is the only thing that is going to change this relationship.

I can guarantee you right now that 99% of people out there can not get their knees to their chin without rounding their lumbar spine.

I'm one of those that uses the leg press exclusively for heavy lifting. The technique that works for me so not to round my lumbar spine is to cross my arms in front of my upper chest and when my knees touch my arms I would begin the pressing movement.

Seems to work well for me...

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Your form has to be bad. The deadlifts simply don't recruit the glutes in the least.

I may be reading this wrong, but if you are saying glutes play no role in deadlifting, you are very wrong. Glutes play a huge roll, especially in lockout.

Originally Posted by fufu

I may be reading this wrong, but if you are saying glutes play no role in deadlifting, you are very wrong. Glutes play a huge roll, especially in lockout.

I saw that post too. I didnt respond cuz of the other thread that happened last week about someone overhearing a "dumb trainer" telling someone that the glutes are recruited in the deadlifts.

Oh man what idiot would say the Glutes don't have a role in deadlifts?