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    traning for mma

    Hello all I join these forms a while back I used it to make my self work out programs and make a proper diet/supplementing I never really posted cause I didn’t really need to ask any thing but now I do so I am posting . Any way I have been working out for a year and a half solid getting good gains about 30 pounds along with working out I have been boxing/wrestling/mma for about 6 years now and I am really dedicated to those. Some things I didn’t realize is that getting stronger and bigger makes you less agile and I feel I have less endurance and flexibility. I was wondering if any one knew more about what kind of training a fighter should do to gain strength explosive power, endurance and flexibility but still keep agile and quick? Most people at my gym say the just work out to gain but they use high reps and full ROM, is there any thing else I can do?
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    it depends on how much you keep up with your flexibiliy program. The range of motion that you are working in.

    youe overall program set up will dictate your work capacity.

    it sounds like your program is not optimal for your goals.

    what are you currently doing?
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    When i started off i did 9 sets in total for each part and reps for 12, but currently for the last year i been doing power 1 month then rep range 1/2 repeat.

    this is how i split my week

    1. push(chest/tris)
    2.legs
    3.pull (back/biceps)
    4.legs
    5.odd day(sholders/abs)
    with rest days in between

    I started to use max rom for all my exercises but I never incorporated stretching, also what should be my tempo I haven’t ever put any thought in to that either
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    Your program isn't doing you to many favors.

    If you haven't included stretching, why do you feel that that quality should be maintained or even gained?

    Check out the stickies to learn how to better set up a program.]

    What are you doing for 'power'? What are you doing for rep ranges? What exercises, sets, reps, etc?

    You are missing a lot here.
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    1. For power I do 3x7 and for Rep range I do 3x12

    Flat bench press
    Incline dumbbell press
    Peck deck

    One Arm Triceps Extension
    Triceps pull downs
    Skull crushers

    2. For power I do 3x8 and for rep range I do 3x15

    Full Squats
    Leg extensions
    Leg press

    Hamstring curl
    Dumbbell Lunge
    Dumbbell step-ups

    3. For power I do 3x7 and for Rep range I do 3x12

    Dead lifts
    Lateral pull downs
    Seated cable rows

    Preacher curl
    Sitting alternating dumbbell curls
    Barbell curls

    4. For power I do 3x8 and for rep range I do 3x15

    Seated calf rises
    Single standing calf rises
    Wall jumps to failure

    Leg press
    Squats

    5. For power I do 3x8 and for rep range I do 3x15 (for shoulders)

    Shoulder press
    Cable raises
    Lateral rises

    Abs:
    Jack knife sit up
    Crunches
    Side bends

    is this better as for streching we always did it before practice but i dont think it is enough
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    One addition to P-funk's suggestions... Since you're into boxing, you could also get some useful advice from Your Top Source For Free Boxing Training Advice
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    you rep ranges and number of sets do not fit the goal that you are trying to achieve. Also, there are a lot of unecessary exercises in there.
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    If you dont do yoga I would definitly get into that. A fellow trainer is a mma fighter and is huge into yoga. He can put his feet behind his head and I for one am awefully impressed by that......

    Whats up P?

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    fuck yoga.

    just stretch.
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    Yeah I am not taking yoga not enough time or money what do you suggest I do about my training like are the exercises I am doing alright should I split it up some other way and the magnitude of my work out? alos what tempo should i be using
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    break your training up into phases depending on where you are in your competitive year....IE, how many fights until your next match, etc...

    I would train 3x's a week on total body workouts. I would have a specific emphasis in each training phase, but I would not totally ingonre other qualities...rather, I would shift the focus on different phases.

    For example:

    week 1-2 work capacity focus
    week 3 work capacity/strength focus (low volume...ie back off)
    week 4-6 strength focus
    week 7 strength/power focus (low volume/back off week)
    week 8-9 power focus
    week 10 peaking

    hope that helps.
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    thanks for all your help I really appreciate it
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    I agree you definitly have to stretch, but yoga is very beneficial. I understand P, your not into the soft music and slow movements. Your more of a hip hop abs kinda guy. I wont hold it against ya.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double D View Post
    I agree you definitly have to stretch, but yoga is very beneficial. I understand P, your not into the soft music and slow movements. Your more of a hip hop abs kinda guy. I wont hold it against ya.....
    stretching is one thing. spending time taking yoga classes a few times a week is another. My main problems with yoga are this:

    1) if you aren't flexible, it can force you to get into positions that you aren't ready for (hence the number of people walking into physical therapy saying that they are hurting from yoga).

    2) it is exercise based on slow movement. sports are not slow. why would you waste a few hours a week, sitting in a room moving into slow stretches and holding positions when you can spend that time doing more productive things? Strength training, recovery training, regeneration work (contrast water therapy, massage, ART, stim, etc.), etc.

    A good flexibility program will work fine. No need to jump into a full on yoga program. I am just not buying it.
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