Brad Pitts workout for Fight Club?

msoper · 06-20-2002, 04:49 PM

Whats a mesomorph?

**Mudge** · 06-20-2002, 04:51 PM

http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=mesomorph

Someone who is naturally muscular.

See also ectomorph/endomorph

Sub-Zero · 06-20-2002, 04:55 PM

It's a somatype (bodytype). It determines how your body is naturally. There are 3 types (mesomorph / ectomorph / endomorph) However most people are a combination (meso-ecto , endo-meso-meso, etc .....)

The best for bodybuilders would be either pure-meso or meso-ecto.

An ectomorph (endurance athlete) possesses a low body fat percentage level, small bone size, a high metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size.

A mesomorph (power athlete) possesses a low to medium body fat percentage level, medium to large bone size, a medium to high metabolism, and a large amount of muscle mass and muscle size.

An endomorph (nonathlete) possesses a high body fat percentage level, large bone size, a slow metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size.

**Prince** · 06-20-2002, 04:55 PM

this page gives a detailed explanation of the theory:

http://www.fitnesszone.com/features/...ody-types.html

it's really just a generalization that is still used to day.

msoper · 06-20-2002, 06:01 PM

Is their a way to change what type you are (of meso, etc.)? I know bone sturcture cant change but can you speed up your metabolism with excercise and lower your body fat perminently. Or will every thing go back to normal if you stop excercising?

Sub-Zero · 06-20-2002, 06:03 PM

You CAN'T change ur bodytype, HOWEVER you can speed up ur metabolism and increase muscle mass, etc ..... BUT this is an effect of ur trainin / diet and will go back to normal if u dont keep up with it

It's just they determine how you are NATURALLY

msoper · 06-20-2002, 06:09 PM

Damn......I natually have lovehandles......even when I am in pretty good shape. I have to do side streches and shit to get rid of them. Swimming is good at helping with this.

**Mudge** · 06-20-2002, 06:35 PM

If you eat well you can avoid excersize if thats what you want.

Some people have reported subcutaneous fat increase due to swimming in water that is cooler than the body, as a natural reaction.

msoper · 06-20-2002, 06:40 PM

Ahhhh......like blubber. hehe I never had THAT problem. I always have loved eating but I have cuz down and lost a good amount of weight lately. But.......the love handles remain alghough they have shrunk.

**Mudge** · 06-20-2002, 06:41 PM

Pretty natural place to store it for us guys.

Sub-Zero · 06-20-2002, 06:42 PM

Yup, swimming alone can make you fatter due to the insulation needed to keep your body warm

msoper · 06-20-2002, 06:51 PM

It seemed to me that men swimmers get slimmer and more muscular but women bulk and get huge-ass shoulders. Thems the breaks. Except everyone on my team had a gut(even some of the girls YIKES!) cuz we sucked but most teams we went up agains thats how it went.

Scotty the Body · 06-20-2002, 07:10 PM

The swimming thing is true but shouldn't be a concern unless your compeating and need to look as riped as you can. The layer of fat is VERY thin on swimmers and most look ripped.

**Mudge** · 06-20-2002, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by msoper
It seemed to me that men swimmers get slimmer and more muscular but women bulk and get huge-ass shoulders. Thems the breaks. Except everyone on my team had a gut(even some of the girls YIKES!) cuz we sucked but most teams we went up agains thats how it went.

I'm not a chick, but I know swimming sure gave my shoulders a workout.

msoper · 06-20-2002, 07:26 PM

Yes.....swimming is good for the sholders and upper body. I never knew about the layer fo fat though. Thats good to know. =) I'm Irish though so I have a thin layer of fat most of the time anyway.

Sub-Zero · 06-20-2002, 07:49 PM

Well, most swimmers who compete do some sort of anaerobic/resistance exercise to aid their development.

Swimmers are mostly lean, most compared to sprinters, etc ..... they aren't quite as lean due to the cold water

seyone · 06-20-2002, 10:37 PM

ist's interesting to see how much this thread has changed. started out about brad pitt and now its about swimming.

Sub-Zero · 06-20-2002, 11:04 PM

Speaking of swimming,

Whats ur fav fish to eat ??? ......lol

1xDeatHsHeaDx3 · 06-24-2002, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
My youngest brother is like that, lean and toned year round, and somehow has a tan as well.

He's hispanic, and he's outside all of the time (not right now though

) Figures that he'd be tan ^^

Quote:

Originally posted by seyone
ist's interesting to see how much this thread has changed. started out about brad pitt and now its about swimming.

I was just thinkin' that myself, but Fight Club is a godly movie you must admit.

ponyboy · 06-24-2002, 12:35 PM

Think about it people, if all you had to worry about all day every day was getting paid millions of dollars to get in good shape, we would all be in incredible condition as well. Unfortunately, there's this little thing called work that gets in the way.

As soon as someone hands me a million dollars and says "there's more where this came from if you can get your BF level down to 5%" I'll quit my job and diet and exercise all day every day. These people aren't real, they are manufactured.

**Mudge** · 06-24-2002, 12:47 PM

I don't think the guy is 5% bodyfat, there are plenty of people that look like Brad Whatshisface year round, thats just the way it is. This is just how Flex Wheeler claimed to be, supposedly he could eat anything year round and be ripped, he was never a really large guy - and to get big he ate tons of calories, and claimed 500g protein intake which is more than many guys larger than himself.

Why is it so hard to believe, you've never seen anyone like this in your life?

LAM · 06-24-2002, 12:58 PM

just had to jump it really quick..500 grams of protein is not that much I take in 420-500 now.

**Mudge** · 06-24-2002, 01:00 PM

There were plenty of pro's at the time that claimed on average of 350-400 which is why it seemed high at the time, especially since he was the smallest of them. Victor Richards on the other hand, hmm. He claimed 10k calorie per day intake in the off season, naturally speaking he is HUGE, all of his measurements (wrist, shoulders) eclipse anything I can imagine.

ponyboy · 06-24-2002, 01:20 PM

Greg Kovacs used to claim he took in 10,000 calories a day too. I think it is a sick amount of food...I have enough trouble taking in 4000 at regular intervals never mind more than double that. No wonder all those guys weigh over 300 lbs. You would literally be eating all day long.

**Mudge** · 06-24-2002, 01:29 PM

Kovaks claimed 400 pounds in the offseason, 300-330 was his "competition weight", then again I never saw him compete in much, gee I guess it must have been the creatine testing that scared him off

He is a drug free 26" you know

Robboe · 06-24-2002, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAM
just had to jump it really quick..500 grams of protein is not that much

Actually, yes it is.

Quote:

I take in 420-500 now.

I'm skeptical whether you actually need that amount.

LAM · 06-24-2002, 01:40 PM

I cut down from close to 260 to 235 about 6 years ago and lost major LBM using 1.5 grams/lb. that's why this time I went up to 2 grams/lb and haven't lost any LBM.

Robboe · 06-24-2002, 01:41 PM

Were you using a different kind of diet back then?

ponyboy · 06-24-2002, 01:43 PM

06-20-2002, 04:51 PM	#32
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=mesomorph Someone who is naturally muscular. See also ectomorph/endomorph
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-20-2002, 04:55 PM	#33
Sub-Zero Master of ICE Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Underworld Posts: 181	It's a somatype (bodytype). It determines how your body is naturally. There are 3 types (mesomorph / ectomorph / endomorph) However most people are a combination (meso-ecto , endo-meso-meso, etc .....) The best for bodybuilders would be either pure-meso or meso-ecto. An ectomorph (endurance athlete) possesses a low body fat percentage level, small bone size, a high metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size. A mesomorph (power athlete) possesses a low to medium body fat percentage level, medium to large bone size, a medium to high metabolism, and a large amount of muscle mass and muscle size. An endomorph (nonathlete) possesses a high body fat percentage level, large bone size, a slow metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size.
	Cold as ice !!

06-20-2002, 04:55 PM	#34
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,932 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	this page gives a detailed explanation of the theory: http://www.fitnesszone.com/features/...ody-types.html it's really just a generalization that is still used to day.
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06-20-2002, 06:03 PM	#36
Sub-Zero Master of ICE Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Underworld Posts: 181	You CAN'T change ur bodytype, HOWEVER you can speed up ur metabolism and increase muscle mass, etc ..... BUT this is an effect of ur trainin / diet and will go back to normal if u dont keep up with it It's just they determine how you are NATURALLY
	Cold as ice !!

06-20-2002, 06:35 PM	#38
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	If you eat well you can avoid excersize if thats what you want. Some people have reported subcutaneous fat increase due to swimming in water that is cooler than the body, as a natural reaction.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-20-2002, 04:49 PM	#31
msoper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 97	Whats a mesomorph?

06-20-2002, 06:01 PM	#35
msoper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 97	Is their a way to change what type you are (of meso, etc.)? I know bone sturcture cant change but can you speed up your metabolism with excercise and lower your body fat perminently. Or will every thing go back to normal if you stop excercising?

06-20-2002, 06:09 PM	#37
msoper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 97	Damn......I natually have lovehandles......even when I am in pretty good shape. I have to do side streches and shit to get rid of them. Swimming is good at helping with this.

06-20-2002, 06:40 PM	#39
msoper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 97	Ahhhh......like blubber. hehe I never had THAT problem. I always have loved eating but I have cuz down and lost a good amount of weight lately. But.......the love handles remain alghough they have shrunk.

06-20-2002, 06:41 PM	#40
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	Pretty natural place to store it for us guys.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-20-2002, 06:42 PM	#41
Sub-Zero Master of ICE Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Underworld Posts: 181	Yup, swimming alone can make you fatter due to the insulation needed to keep your body warm
	Cold as ice !!

06-20-2002, 06:51 PM	#42
msoper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 97	It seemed to me that men swimmers get slimmer and more muscular but women bulk and get huge-ass shoulders. Thems the breaks. Except everyone on my team had a gut(even some of the girls YIKES!) cuz we sucked but most teams we went up agains thats how it went.

06-20-2002, 07:10 PM	#43
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	The swimming thing is true but shouldn't be a concern unless your compeating and need to look as riped as you can. The layer of fat is VERY thin on swimmers and most look ripped.
	Cool

06-20-2002, 07:26 PM	#45
msoper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 97	Yes.....swimming is good for the sholders and upper body. I never knew about the layer fo fat though. Thats good to know. =) I'm Irish though so I have a thin layer of fat most of the time anyway.

06-20-2002, 07:49 PM	#46
Sub-Zero Master of ICE Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Underworld Posts: 181	Well, most swimmers who compete do some sort of anaerobic/resistance exercise to aid their development. Swimmers are mostly lean, most compared to sprinters, etc ..... they aren't quite as lean due to the cold water
	Cold as ice !!

06-20-2002, 10:37 PM	#47
seyone M. I. A. Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philly Posts: 2,562	ist's interesting to see how much this thread has changed. started out about brad pitt and now its about swimming.
	to be the man you have to beat the man.

06-20-2002, 11:04 PM	#48
Sub-Zero Master of ICE Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Underworld Posts: 181	Speaking of swimming, Whats ur fav fish to eat ??? ......lol
	Cold as ice !!

06-24-2002, 12:35 PM	#50
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	Think about it people, if all you had to worry about all day every day was getting paid millions of dollars to get in good shape, we would all be in incredible condition as well. Unfortunately, there's this little thing called work that gets in the way. As soon as someone hands me a million dollars and says "there's more where this came from if you can get your BF level down to 5%" I'll quit my job and diet and exercise all day every day. These people aren't real, they are manufactured.

06-24-2002, 12:47 PM	#51
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	I don't think the guy is 5% bodyfat, there are plenty of people that look like Brad Whatshisface year round, thats just the way it is. This is just how Flex Wheeler claimed to be, supposedly he could eat anything year round and be ripped, he was never a really large guy - and to get big he ate tons of calories, and claimed 500g protein intake which is more than many guys larger than himself. Why is it so hard to believe, you've never seen anyone like this in your life?
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-24-2002, 12:58 PM	#52
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	just had to jump it really quick..500 grams of protein is not that much I take in 420-500 now.
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

06-24-2002, 01:00 PM	#53
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	There were plenty of pro's at the time that claimed on average of 350-400 which is why it seemed high at the time, especially since he was the smallest of them. Victor Richards on the other hand, hmm. He claimed 10k calorie per day intake in the off season, naturally speaking he is HUGE, all of his measurements (wrist, shoulders) eclipse anything I can imagine.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-24-2002, 01:20 PM	#54
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	Greg Kovacs used to claim he took in 10,000 calories a day too. I think it is a sick amount of food...I have enough trouble taking in 4000 at regular intervals never mind more than double that. No wonder all those guys weigh over 300 lbs. You would literally be eating all day long.

06-24-2002, 01:29 PM	#55
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	Kovaks claimed 400 pounds in the offseason, 300-330 was his "competition weight", then again I never saw him compete in much, gee I guess it must have been the creatine testing that scared him off He is a drug free 26" you know
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-24-2002, 01:40 PM	#57
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I cut down from close to 260 to 235 about 6 years ago and lost major LBM using 1.5 grams/lb. that's why this time I went up to 2 grams/lb and haven't lost any LBM.
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

06-24-2002, 01:41 PM	#58
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Were you using a different kind of diet back then?
	Being held down by The Man

06-24-2002, 01:43 PM	#59
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