pull-ups

Delusional · 10-12-2007, 10:13 PM

i am horrible at them, its been forever since ive done them though. should i do them first, in the middle, or at the end of my routine? how long does it take to make progress with them also? i do chin ups with my palms facing me, close grip. then i pull myself up over the bar, falms facing away, wide grip. it kills me, i reach failure quick, and i cant do that many at all...

**P-funk** · 10-12-2007, 10:36 PM

keep working on it.

the best way to get better at pull ups is to do pull ups.

Delusional · 10-12-2007, 10:57 PM

should i do my pull ups first thing in my routine, in the middle of my routine, or at the end as a finisher?

**P-funk** · 10-12-2007, 11:00 PM

Depends on what you want to focus on.

I used to just do them on every day that I trained. Sometimes I would do them everyday. I have a pull up bar in my apartment and sometimes I just walk by it and rip off a set of pull ups.

It is a great body weight exercise.

One way to ge better is to try and do a certain amount of volume. For example, lets say your goal is 20 total repetitions. You might start by trying to do 10 sets of 2 reps. Then, you try and get 6 sets of 3 reps and 1 set of 2 reps. or a few sets of 3's and a few sets of 2's etc...until you can just knock out pull ups like crazy.

You could stagger them between your workout....so, you do a set of pull ups in between each exercise. You could do 1 pull up between every set during the exercises in your workout....etc....lots of ways to do them and get better...just do them!

dantheman81 · 10-12-2007, 11:13 PM

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KeenanB13 · 10-12-2007, 11:16 PM

Yeah he's right^. I like to do mine usually next to 1st that way I can crank out about 2 sets of 20 before I go and get all tight. If you do them after you lift take in consideration, your muscles are exhausted, and you, like I said are tight because of lifting you're not going to get as many, but they are still good to mix in there, I usually try and get close to 50 a day, everyone counts, I'll do 15 mabey the 1st time, and lift a little then come back and mabey do 5 or 6 but they add up you know?

fUnc17 · 10-13-2007, 10:16 AM

You can do 'ladders'

1 pullup, rest, 2 pullups, rest, 3 pullups until you feel you cant do the next set. Then start at 1 again

KeenanB13 · 10-13-2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fUnc17

You can do 'ladders'

1 pullup, rest, 2 pullups, rest, 3 pullups until you feel you cant do the next set. Then start at 1 again

How long of rest in between?

vortrit · 10-13-2007, 11:33 AM

I know what you mean. My vertical pulling sucks. I try to do chins, etc., first in my routine.

fUnc17 · 10-14-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KeenanB13

How long of rest in between?

Ladders is a partner drill. So you rest for as long as your partner is doing his set, then you go. So...

i do 1 pullup, u do 1 pullup, i do 2, u do 2 and so on till you can't complete the set (do not take it to failure) then start at 1 again.

danzik17 · 10-14-2007, 12:59 PM

Every time I walk into my room I do a set of 5 pullups or chinups - depends on what I feel like doing.

KeenanB13 · 10-14-2007, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fUnc17

Ladders is a partner drill. So you rest for as long as your partner is doing his set, then you go. So...

i do 1 pullup, u do 1 pullup, i do 2, u do 2 and so on till you can't complete the set (do not take it to failure) then start at 1 again.

Oh alright, I lift with a partner so this will be something new to ry out tomorrow. Thanks.

vortrit · 10-14-2007, 01:27 PM

The ladders sound cool. I think I'm going to try them but without a partner because I don't have one. Everyone is the gym is way above or below my level. I'm stuck somewhere in the middle.

vortrit · 10-14-2007, 01:28 PM

Mostly above.

Delusional · 10-14-2007, 02:43 PM

yea im going to try the ladders, also by myself. sounds like a good way to progress

Pound for Pound · 10-14-2007, 07:54 PM

What are you using to do them on? If you don't have a partner to spot you, is there anything you could put a foot on to help with a rep if you need it?

I always start my (pull) back day with 3-4 sets of leg-out pull-ups. Well, not always, but most of the time.

vortrit · 10-14-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pound for Pound

What are you using to do them on? If you don't have a partner to spot you, is there anything you could put a foot on to help with a rep if you need it?

I always start my (pull) back day with 3-4 sets of leg-out pull-ups. Well, not always, but most of the time.

I do them in a power cage which has adjustable pins you could put your feet on.

danzik17 · 10-14-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pound for Pound

What are you using to do them on? If you don't have a partner to spot you, is there anything you could put a foot on to help with a rep if you need it?

I always start my (pull) back day with 3-4 sets of leg-out pull-ups. Well, not always, but most of the time.

If it's your last rep of your last set you could always do something I love to do. Just pull yourself up 1/2 way instead of the whole way and really focus on flexing the target muscles - hold this as long as you can, usually 7-10s for me. Then, lower yourself painfully slow, literally 1mm at a time.

Just a fun last rep that I've gotten used to doing.

KeenanB13 · 10-15-2007, 05:19 PM

Me and my partner did ladders today we got up to 10 and compleated it and then I got to 8 on the next one and that's all we did as for pull ups. It was a good workout though. Good idea.

VILBAUGH · 10-16-2007, 07:11 PM

dare I post it.... what the heck.
A strict pullup, although beneficial is an inefficient pullup.
Kipping however, will turn you into a pull up/chin beast. Once developed your max reps will greatly increase;

Kipping allows more work to be done in less time, thus increasing power output. It is also a full-body coordination movement when performed correctly, which applies more functionally to real-life application of pulling skills. Last, but not least, the hip motion of an effective kip mirrors the motion of the olympic lifts/kettlebell swings, adding to it's function as a posterior-chain developer."
crossfit.com

CrossFit Exercises

danzik17 · 10-16-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VILBAUGH

dare I post it.... what the heck.
A strict pullup, although beneficial is an inefficient pullup.
Kipping however, will turn you into a pull up/chin beast. Once developed your max reps will greatly increase;

Kipping allows more work to be done in less time, thus increasing power output. It is also a full-body coordination movement when performed correctly, which applies more functionally to real-life application of pulling skills. Last, but not least, the hip motion of an effective kip mirrors the motion of the olympic lifts/kettlebell swings, adding to it's function as a posterior-chain developer."
crossfit.com

CrossFit Exercises

Who cares about the max reps, you're not doing the exercise right. I can do shitloads of heavy curls if I throw my back into it, but that doesn't mean it's a smart/good way to train.

BiggT · 10-16-2007, 10:12 PM

i recently fell in love with pull ups and i was horrible at first. i bought a bar for my house. definately do them at the start of your workout. i personally do them constantly throughout the day. my friend has the craziest back and lats ive ever seen for his age (17). insane, and he says he does a thousand pull ups a day. dont stop even if you can only do 2 per set. like p-funk said, keep working on them!

**CowPimp** · 10-16-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

Depends on what you want to focus on.

I used to just do them on every day that I trained. Sometimes I would do them everyday. I have a pull up bar in my apartment and sometimes I just walk by it and rip off a set of pull ups.

It is a great body weight exercise.

One way to ge better is to try and do a certain amount of volume. For example, lets say your goal is 20 total repetitions. You might start by trying to do 10 sets of 2 reps. Then, you try and get 6 sets of 3 reps and 1 set of 2 reps. or a few sets of 3's and a few sets of 2's etc...until you can just knock out pull ups like crazy.

You could stagger them between your workout....so, you do a set of pull ups in between each exercise. You could do 1 pull up between every set during the exercises in your workout....etc....lots of ways to do them and get better...just do them!

My favorite method is the last one listed here. The chinup ladder has worked great getting multiple clients of mine from 1-2 chinups up to several (7-10) in fairly short order. It works even if you can do quite a few too. I took one of my clients who has trained consistently for the past 6-7 years from 10 chinups to 13 within a couple of months using a chinup ladder.

VILBAUGH · 10-17-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danzik17

Who cares about the max reps, you're not doing the exercise right. I can do shitloads of heavy curls if I throw my back into it, but that doesn't mean it's a smart/good way to train.

Deadhang pullups build strength,
Kipping pull ups, like Olympic lifting, build power. and I assure you, they are a very valid exercise.
The fact that you would even compare it to a shitty bicep curl is a true indication of your ignorance.

Delusional · 10-17-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VILBAUGH

Deadhang pullups build strength,
Kipping pull ups, like Olympic lifting, build power. and I assure you, they are a very valid exercise.
The fact that you would even compare it to a shitty bicep curl is a true indication of your ignorance.

im not even really sure what either of those are? dead hang or kipping

VILBAUGH · 10-17-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delusional

im not even really sure what either of those are? dead hang or kipping

go to this link and watch the video for kipping pullup and it will all make sense.

CrossFit Exercises

Delusional · 10-17-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VILBAUGH

go to this link and watch the video for kipping pullup and it will all make sense.

CrossFit Exercises

shit. the wmv files wont play when i click them. what do i need to watch them?

10-12-2007, 10:13 PM	#1
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10-12-2007, 10:36 PM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,436	keep working on it. the best way to get better at pull ups is to do pull ups.
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10-12-2007, 10:57 PM	#3
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10-12-2007, 11:00 PM	#4
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,436	Depends on what you want to focus on. I used to just do them on every day that I trained. Sometimes I would do them everyday. I have a pull up bar in my apartment and sometimes I just walk by it and rip off a set of pull ups. It is a great body weight exercise. One way to ge better is to try and do a certain amount of volume. For example, lets say your goal is 20 total repetitions. You might start by trying to do 10 sets of 2 reps. Then, you try and get 6 sets of 3 reps and 1 set of 2 reps. or a few sets of 3's and a few sets of 2's etc...until you can just knock out pull ups like crazy. You could stagger them between your workout....so, you do a set of pull ups in between each exercise. You could do 1 pull up between every set during the exercises in your workout....etc....lots of ways to do them and get better...just do them!
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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10-12-2007, 11:16 PM	#6
KeenanB13 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: West Va. Posts: 125 Photos: 8	Yeah he's right^. I like to do mine usually next to 1st that way I can crank out about 2 sets of 20 before I go and get all tight. If you do them after you lift take in consideration, your muscles are exhausted, and you, like I said are tight because of lifting you're not going to get as many, but they are still good to mix in there, I usually try and get close to 50 a day, everyone counts, I'll do 15 mabey the 1st time, and lift a little then come back and mabey do 5 or 6 but they add up you know?
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10-13-2007, 10:16 AM	#7
fUnc17 Drop and give me 100 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jersey Shore BJJ Posts: 1,869 Photos: 12	You can do 'ladders' 1 pullup, rest, 2 pullups, rest, 3 pullups until you feel you cant do the next set. Then start at 1 again
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10-13-2007, 11:33 AM	#9
vortrit Bulk. Cut. Repeat. Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 2,652 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 5	I know what you mean. My vertical pulling sucks. I try to do chins, etc., first in my routine.
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10-14-2007, 12:59 PM	#11
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,980 Blog Entries: 5	Every time I walk into my room I do a set of 5 pullups or chinups - depends on what I feel like doing.
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10-14-2007, 01:27 PM	#13
vortrit Bulk. Cut. Repeat. Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 2,652 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 5	The ladders sound cool. I think I'm going to try them but without a partner because I don't have one. Everyone is the gym is way above or below my level. I'm stuck somewhere in the middle.
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10-14-2007, 01:28 PM	#14
vortrit Bulk. Cut. Repeat. Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 2,652 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 5	Mostly above.
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10-14-2007, 02:43 PM	#15
Delusional little guy with big hopes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 547	yea im going to try the ladders, also by myself. sounds like a good way to progress
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10-14-2007, 07:54 PM	#16
Pound for Pound Mind and Muscle Rep Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Galt's Gulch Posts: 126	What are you using to do them on? If you don't have a partner to spot you, is there anything you could put a foot on to help with a rep if you need it? I always start my (pull) back day with 3-4 sets of leg-out pull-ups. Well, not always, but most of the time.
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10-15-2007, 05:19 PM	#19
KeenanB13 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: West Va. Posts: 125 Photos: 8	Me and my partner did ladders today we got up to 10 and compleated it and then I got to 8 on the next one and that's all we did as for pull ups. It was a good workout though. Good idea.
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10-16-2007, 07:11 PM	#20
VILBAUGH Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 77	dare I post it.... what the heck. A strict pullup, although beneficial is an inefficient pullup. Kipping however, will turn you into a pull up/chin beast. Once developed your max reps will greatly increase; Kipping allows more work to be done in less time, thus increasing power output. It is also a full-body coordination movement when performed correctly, which applies more functionally to real-life application of pulling skills. Last, but not least, the hip motion of an effective kip mirrors the motion of the olympic lifts/kettlebell swings, adding to it's function as a posterior-chain developer." crossfit.com CrossFit Exercises

10-16-2007, 10:12 PM	#22
BiggT Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange County Posts: 148 Photos: 5	i recently fell in love with pull ups and i was horrible at first. i bought a bar for my house. definately do them at the start of your workout. i personally do them constantly throughout the day. my friend has the craziest back and lats ive ever seen for his age (17). insane, and he says he does a thousand pull ups a day. dont stop even if you can only do 2 per set. like p-funk said, keep working on them!
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