I hate biceps training!

the_menace · 06-24-2002, 03:07 AM

This is kind of weird but it seems like most of the people like to train their biceps and I'm exactly the opposite. I hate doing them but it doesn't mean that I don't train them. Its just that I'm not getting enough pump whenever I do them. Any advice to make biceps training more enjoyable or at least give me a pump.
Thanks ya'll.

My routine by the way just in case.
5 x 8 Alternate DB curls
5 x 8 Cable curls
3 x 8 Barbell curls
3 x 8 Reverse barbell curls

quakin · 06-24-2002, 04:28 AM

Holy crap! Waaayyyyyy too many sets and exercises for the bicep.

Try 4 or 5 sets maximum. Try training biceps after back too if you're not already. If you're training your back hard you should already have a really good pump going in the forearms and biceps... especially if you're doing heavy deadlifts. A few sets of curls after this should make them feel like they'll pop.

For what it's worth, I used to do 3 exercise with 3 sets each once a week and they didn't grow much at all. Now I do 2 exercises with 2 sets each or a superset (I change the exercises from week to week) after I train my back and they're really starting to grow. The bicep is a very easy muscle to overtrain.

Robboe · 06-24-2002, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by the_menace
This is kind of weird but it seems like most of the people like to train their biceps and I'm exactly the opposite. I hate doing them

Me too.

P.s. Your routine is awful.

ians · 06-24-2002, 08:06 AM

No wonder you hate training Bi's...... if i had do all that, i wouldnt like doing them either !!! WAY 2 MUCH !!!

As quakin said - try doing Bi's after back and only do 2 exercises !!

Try this - train Back then do:-

Barbell Curls - 3 x 6
21's Cable Curls - 3 x 21

The 21's should give you a really good pump !!

Fade · 06-24-2002, 08:49 AM

That is way too much.

Deff do barbell first and heavy. Then one of the other exercises. Alt dumbell curls, preacher curls, etc...

the_menace · 06-24-2002, 08:50 AM

I do my biceps with my legs so I can blast them real good and I do my back with delts. So you guys are saying that back and biceps is a good pair to hit biceps? What do you guys suggest if I stick with my current biceps/legs split?

Fade · 06-24-2002, 09:12 AM

You have enough energy to do biceps after legs?

I don't like doing biceps with back. It's personal pref really.

Do about 6 sets for biceps.

**gopro** · 06-24-2002, 09:13 AM

You can keep biceps with legs if you so desire, but you MUST do less for your biceps. You are overtraining them and they will never grow on that routine unless you are on steroids!

Cut your routine down to 6 sets at THE MOST (I do 4)...either 3 exercises at 2 sets each or 2 exercises at 3 sets each. Make sure your form is excellent and use a variety of reps...say 2 sets at 6-8, 2 sets at 8-12, and 2 sets at 12-15.

By the way...are you training legs or bis first?

the_menace · 06-24-2002, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by gopro
By the way...are you training legs or bis first?

I do my biceps first then legs. 'Cause I get dizzy when I finish my legs so I do biceps the first thing. Legs is a pain!

OK. I guess I have to cut down my sets to 6 sets, 7 at the most.

Fade · 06-24-2002, 09:19 AM

Do the larger muscles first.

List your weekly workout sched.

Robboe · 06-24-2002, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Fade99
Do the larger muscles first.

List your weekly workout sched.

Actually, i agree with him doing biceps first in this case.

Fatigued biceps won't adversely effect his leg training (except maybe grip if he does SLDL's) and a bicep workout doesn't really wear you out enough to effect leg training. leg training before biceps training, however, would definately = affected biceps training. You'd be too fucked to have a "proper" biceps session.

**gopro** · 06-24-2002, 10:33 AM

Well, aside from the "argument" of which "should" be trained first, I just asked the question b/c he mentioned he was having trouble getting a pump. If he were doing legs first, it would be very hard to get a good bi pump as so much blood would be collected in the legs. The body would have a hard time getting that blood back up to the bis so fast.

Fade · 06-24-2002, 10:51 AM

I'd still pick another day to do biceps.

Scotty the Body · 06-24-2002, 10:52 AM

Whats the rest of your week like, list your weekly schedual.

LAM · 06-24-2002, 10:52 AM

training biceps is boring !

ditto to everyone else regarding the volume...

Robboe · 06-24-2002, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Fade99
I'd still pick another day to do biceps.

I do them on the 8th day of the week.

the_menace · 06-24-2002, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Whats the rest of your week like, list your weekly schedual.

Tuesday - Delts, Back, Abs (x 50)
Thursday - Chest, Triceps, Abs (x 50)
Saturday - Biceps, Legs, Abs (x 50)
Sunday - Sometimes off or cycle repeats

I work-out at nights between 6 to 8.

And ya, the legs training is pretty intense and all my energy is down once I finish it.

the_menace · 06-24-2002, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy

I do them on the 8th day of the week.

There is no such thing as 8th day

**Mudge** · 06-24-2002, 11:35 AM

After back, currently I am doing:

3-4 sets standing barbell curls
1-2 sets of hammer or concentration curls (any dumbell movement I feel like for the day)

By the time I finish I'm pretty well slaughtered from back, works for me.

Robboe · 06-24-2002, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by the_menace

There is no such thing as 8th day

Yeah, just like there's no such thing as biceps training for me...

robbm · 06-24-2002, 02:10 PM

Mudge

Is that your Camaro in your signature??? Give me some details man. I am currently building a 68 SS!!

Robb

PS. If it's not yours, at least you've got good taste in cars.

**Mudge** · 06-24-2002, 02:26 PM

Frig, no its not, but 67/68 has been my dream forever. I currently own a 94 Z28, hope to sell it in awhile and get a 68 to build up. I did own a 69 Firebird 400/400 though.

I like the 94, but I LOVE a 68. Not sure on powerplant, but would like to stick a 6 speed in it for sure, fix the front and rear suspension (stock sucks ass), and then get the rest going.

quakin · 06-24-2002, 02:29 PM

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Tuesday - Delts, Back, Abs (x 50)
Thursday - Chest, Triceps, Abs (x 50)
Saturday - Biceps, Legs, Abs (x 50)
Sunday - Sometimes off or cycle repeats

Please tell me the x50 doesn't mean 50 sets.

**gopro** · 06-24-2002, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy

Yeah, just like there's no such thing as biceps training for me...

TCD does not need to do biceps...his are already enormous! He is very genetically gifted. He actually does not train at all! He only eats candy, and sleeps 1 hour each night! He avoids glutamine like the plague, as he feels glutamine was invented by an evil wizard that wishes to make us shrink while taking all of our money.

...and yet TCD still grows bigger by the day!

**Mudge** · 06-24-2002, 11:00 PM

Its a cruel and unfair world isn't it...

kuso · 06-24-2002, 11:41 PM

I do three sets for bi`s after back and it kills em.....anything more is going backwards for me.

Neil · 06-24-2002, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro

TCD does not need to do biceps...his are already enormous! He is very genetically gifted. He actually does not train at all! He only eats candy, and sleeps 1 hour each night! He avoids glutamine like the plague, as he feels glutamine was invented by an evil wizard that wishes to make us shrink while taking all of our money.

...and yet TCD still grows bigger by the day!

LMAO!!!!

To get back on topic I do 2 sets of bb curls right after back. I do my first set heavy, failing at around 4 reps and my second failing around 8 reps.

the_menace · 06-25-2002, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by quakin

Please tell me the x50 doesn't mean 50 sets.

No..no! That means 50 reps.

Quote:

TCD does not need to do biceps...his are already enormous! He is very genetically gifted. H

06-24-2002, 03:07 AM	#1
the_menace Under construction Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 102	I hate biceps training! This is kind of weird but it seems like most of the people like to train their biceps and I'm exactly the opposite. I hate doing them but it doesn't mean that I don't train them. Its just that I'm not getting enough pump whenever I do them. Any advice to make biceps training more enjoyable or at least give me a pump. Thanks ya'll. My routine by the way just in case. 5 x 8 Alternate DB curls 5 x 8 Cable curls 3 x 8 Barbell curls 3 x 8 Reverse barbell curls
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06-24-2002, 04:28 AM	#2
quakin Internet Tough Guy Join Date: May 2002 Location: In a van, down by the river!! Posts: 50	Holy crap! Waaayyyyyy too many sets and exercises for the bicep. Try 4 or 5 sets maximum. Try training biceps after back too if you're not already. If you're training your back hard you should already have a really good pump going in the forearms and biceps... especially if you're doing heavy deadlifts. A few sets of curls after this should make them feel like they'll pop. For what it's worth, I used to do 3 exercise with 3 sets each once a week and they didn't grow much at all. Now I do 2 exercises with 2 sets each or a superset (I change the exercises from week to week) after I train my back and they're really starting to grow. The bicep is a very easy muscle to overtrain.
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06-24-2002, 08:06 AM	#4
ians Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 126	No wonder you hate training Bi's...... if i had do all that, i wouldnt like doing them either !!! WAY 2 MUCH !!! As quakin said - try doing Bi's after back and only do 2 exercises !! Try this - train Back then do:- Barbell Curls - 3 x 6 21's Cable Curls - 3 x 21 The 21's should give you a really good pump !!
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06-24-2002, 08:50 AM	#6
the_menace Under construction Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 102	I do my biceps with my legs so I can blast them real good and I do my back with delts. So you guys are saying that back and biceps is a good pair to hit biceps? What do you guys suggest if I stick with my current biceps/legs split?
	There's no such thing as getting too big! 6'2, 235 lbs.

06-24-2002, 09:13 AM	#8
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,521	You can keep biceps with legs if you so desire, but you MUST do less for your biceps. You are overtraining them and they will never grow on that routine unless you are on steroids! Cut your routine down to 6 sets at THE MOST (I do 4)...either 3 exercises at 2 sets each or 2 exercises at 3 sets each. Make sure your form is excellent and use a variety of reps...say 2 sets at 6-8, 2 sets at 8-12, and 2 sets at 12-15. By the way...are you training legs or bis first?
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06-24-2002, 08:49 AM	#5
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	That is way too much. Deff do barbell first and heavy. Then one of the other exercises. Alt dumbell curls, preacher curls, etc...

06-24-2002, 09:12 AM	#7
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	You have enough energy to do biceps after legs? I don't like doing biceps with back. It's personal pref really. Do about 6 sets for biceps.

06-24-2002, 09:19 AM	#10
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	Do the larger muscles first. List your weekly workout sched.

06-24-2002, 10:33 AM	#12
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,521	Well, aside from the "argument" of which "should" be trained first, I just asked the question b/c he mentioned he was having trouble getting a pump. If he were doing legs first, it would be very hard to get a good bi pump as so much blood would be collected in the legs. The body would have a hard time getting that blood back up to the bis so fast.
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06-24-2002, 10:51 AM	#13
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	I'd still pick another day to do biceps.

06-24-2002, 10:52 AM	#14
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	Whats the rest of your week like, list your weekly schedual.
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06-24-2002, 10:52 AM	#15
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	training biceps is boring ! ditto to everyone else regarding the volume...
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06-24-2002, 11:35 AM	#19
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	After back, currently I am doing: 3-4 sets standing barbell curls 1-2 sets of hammer or concentration curls (any dumbell movement I feel like for the day) By the time I finish I'm pretty well slaughtered from back, works for me.
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06-24-2002, 02:10 PM	#21
robbm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eastern Canada Posts: 29	Mudge Is that your Camaro in your signature??? Give me some details man. I am currently building a 68 SS!! Robb PS. If it's not yours, at least you've got good taste in cars.

06-24-2002, 02:26 PM	#22
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	Frig, no its not, but 67/68 has been my dream forever. I currently own a 94 Z28, hope to sell it in awhile and get a 68 to build up. I did own a 69 Firebird 400/400 though. I like the 94, but I LOVE a 68. Not sure on powerplant, but would like to stick a 6 speed in it for sure, fix the front and rear suspension (stock sucks ass), and then get the rest going.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

06-24-2002, 11:00 PM	#25
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,056 Photos: 1	Its a cruel and unfair world isn't it...
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06-24-2002, 11:41 PM	#26
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,047 Photos: 15	I do three sets for bi`s after back and it kills em.....anything more is going backwards for me.