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    I just started a new offseason workout with my football team (given to me by P-funk) its a great workout btw, but anyways I'm not doing anything I hadn't been doing in my previous workout but its all mixed up. And after the first workout I had extreme soreness to where the next day my legs would almost feel like they were giving out for a split second when I just walk to and fro. And my lower back and rear delts were terribly sore from it also. And I felt too weak to workout even 2 days after it. But again I have been doing most of these excersizes before but never have gotten this sore. (I had done a wind-sprint workout before day 1 of the workout but nothing that makes my legs anywhere near this sore)

    Maybe this surprised my muscles from not doing the norm workout?
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    Maybe I didn't stretch long enough at the end?

    Thoughts anyone?

    Should I of tooken a few days off from my normal routine to switch to this off-season one?
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    Once I did a 50 rep squat set. I didn't get that sore the next day, but it peaked by the third day and I had the same thing you describe. My quads sometimes just would not fire. My knees would buckle when I was walking and I almost fell over ~10 times that day, sometimes just standing. I did fall over once.

    If the soreness is that bad I may take the day off, it is really up to you though. Sometimes the soreness is so bad it makes it hard to maintain form, especially when the muscles are not firing properly. On the same note, you may want to continue training to adapt to that sort of situation better in the future. It is up to you. You could do a combination and train lighter for that one day.

    Oh yeah, I am not certain, but I find that when I stretch heavily after a workout it increases DOMS. That is just my personal experience.
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    What exercises were you doing?

    Also, how much training volume did you do in your training before this program? Was it more or less?

    How much of an offseason did you give yourself after football season was over?
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    I'm not surprised. When you do something that your body isn't used to it tends to amplify soreness. New exercises generally do it to me, but there are also certain repetition ranges that tend to make me more sore than others, particularly in my legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    What exercises were you doing?

    Also, how much training volume did you do in your training before this program? Was it more or less?

    How much of an offseason did you give yourself after football season was over?
    core
    1) side plank
    2) reverse crunch
    3) hyper-extensions
    plyometric
    1) med. ball chest pass- 3x20sec
    2) box jump- 3x5
    resistance training
    1) Deadlift 3x10
    2) RDL- 3 x10-12
    3a) 1-arm DB row- 3x10-12
    3b) weighted push ups- 3 x reps
    4a) step up - 3x10-12
    4b) BB curl
    I added 2 exercizes (italicized)

    I was doing more resistance training before this but this workout is longer than my last. I would train for anywhere from 50-60 minutes this took about 1hr30min for the first time.

    And I took about a week off, our season ended 2 saturdays ago I think I lifted weights 3 days out of that week, I'm thinking maybe my legs didn't start hurting till the third day like fufu said had happend to him.

    And just fyi the soreness is still pretty bad today, I feel like I'm sore in all the right places just enough to not be able to workout even workout different muscles.
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    I would go back and review my blog on the entry where I answered your question.

    I wouldn't have that many exercises (especially things like deadlifts, RDLs and hypers) in the same session. Then, on top of all that posterior chain stuff, you went and did step ups!

    Also, that is a lot of volume if you add it up (with that high of reps).

    The key to your post is where you said you "added to exercises."

    There is a reason they probably shouldn't have been in this workout in the first place.
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    Oh ok, I just figured since deadlifts weren't in the 3-day routine I'd try to add it in one of the days, I should of asked first And I didn't do step-ups that workout I skipped them just because I had done a leg workout 2 days before. It was a good thing I was the only one working out that day, everyone else had basketball games.
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    you trained legs 2 days before....then you did this?

    I think you have to learn how to structure things better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    you trained legs 2 days before....then you did this?

    I think you have to learn how to structure things better.

    I never really have switched from one routine to another like this, I just guess I'm making every nooby mistake I can with this. At least I learned for next time.
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    You should switch program once in a while.

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    I have switched before just this is the biggest switch I'd have to say, even though I'm doing alot of the same stuff its all in a different order.
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    Every couple of weeks I'll mix in Abductors/Adductors and really hit me inner/outer things hard. Two days later and my legs are more sore from that than they are when I squat to failure.

    I think you should do what some of the guys were saying, work through it, so your body adapts to that kind of rigorous training.
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    Simple answer, you overtrained. Doing hyperextensions and deadlifts on the same day is just redundant and counter-effective. Especially if you haven't worked these muscles with the same intensity in a long time, hell yeah you should be sore, anyone would be.

    Nobody can fault you for lack of motivation, though, don't let this disappoint you. Recover from this and in the future, on days that you do powerlifts like deadlift and cleans and things that require using a lot of weight, don't burn your muscles out. Go heavy and go home on those days, don't overtrain.

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