Thread: Lifting weights in prep for boot camp.

plus I'll probably lose all gains in boot camp anyway.

What will you be doing in bootcamp?

Thats why I"m thinkin its gona do me more good to do body weight, i hada similar post about a month and a half ago, about weighted pushups. Well I re-upped my gym membership and went free weights pretty much all the way again.
Anyhow, as far as what I'll be doing in bootcamp....running,swimming,push ups, sit ups, maybe pull ups (pull ups if i go to buds which I'm toying with the idea of)
From what I've heard they had to pussy down bootcamp for the liberals.Apparently they bitched and moaned about it being to tough on young men and women. Wtf is that. I signed up for the getting bitchslapped experience. lol I dont know if this is true, but an older friend of mine told me that he knows a guy who just got back from the army's bootcamp, and they gave him cards for when he wasnt feeling up to doing the excersises....he could hold up somthing like a time out card, and skip the excersise.
I seriously hope this aint true, I want to be scared shitless, not have a liberal'd out drill instructer.

Originally Posted by Titansgymflunky

Anyhow, as far as what I'll be doing in bootcamp....running,swimming,push ups, sit ups, maybe pull ups (pull ups if i go to buds which I'm toying with the idea of)

If this is what theyll be testing you on so to speak, train those things. Perhaps add weight training in once or twice on a fullbody split to build up overall work capacity and the way your body works as a unit.

Other than that, just train for the things youll be doing. Try to get better at running, either try to run more distance in a set time, or run a faster time for a certain distance. Same for swimming. Theres no point going all out training for things you wont need, yknow?

Originally Posted by Titansgymflunky

I signed up for the getting bitchslapped experience.

Then why did you sign up for the Navy? It's the Air Force you gotta watch out for, those dudes are BAD ASS.

Hahahah thats a very good point, dear god dont let me fall into the clutches of those evil bastards haha. What i really meant though, was if the army is getting time out cards and shit, think how much easier the navy bootcamp must have gotten. I hope not.

plus I have this weird ass preference when it comes to my daily routine; I dont like being shot at., Thats the key thing keeping me going to buds just a thought.

I just graduated USMC bootcamp 2 months ago. I don't know what they do in the Navys bootcamp but I can give you some advice from my experience. If you prepare to do stuff that the Marine Corp does then bootcamp for the Navy will be really easy.

Here is some stuff we did....

Hike Long distances with a weighted pack. I weigh 135 and my pack would weigh 50 to 60 pounds. We humped anywhere from 3 to 12 miles.

On the combat endurance course we run with a combat load on. We would run in full cammies, kevlar helmet, deuce gear and a m16-a2 service rifle. The combat endurance course was 3 miles.

Alot of crawls...low crawl, high crawl, bear crawl. Fast as possible.

We did MCMAP endurance courses. Basicly Martial Arts endurance. We would hit bags as fast as we could for however long they wanted us to. Kicks, punches, elbows...you name it.

Lots of push ups, pullups, squats, crunches, burpees, jumping jacks and running.

The typical runs were 3 miles long max effort.

My advice is practice how you play. If you do this shit you will be pretty prepared. Major thing is to stay hydrated..especially on humps. You do not want to be a heat case. People that don't take it seriously would drop like flies. Once again I don't know what they do in the Navy. But I can guarantee it's not harder than the Marine Corp unless you want to be a Seal or Enlisted Flight Crew or some shit.

if u use weights, try the 300 workout, that shit will have u lifting and gasping for air

Thanks, I tried a seals program i got here a while back.....that shit was crazy, eventually I just got tired of running longer and not really faster, and doing hundreds of push ups and sit ups. I'd prolly be in much better shape for bootcamp if Ida just stuckit out on that program. Also Ima look up the 300 w/o and see what it is, thanks yall.

....That 300 thing looked to crazy, I dont think I'd be able to stick tthat more then a week.Either that or I'd drop a kettle bell on my head.

just went running, my mile time has slowed down by a minute. so I'm gonna go with the safe bet of saying forget my gym program and going back to body weight excersise and running. But I'm still gona go work out tonight (softball team works out tonight lol)

Doing push-ups and body-weight exercises are good for you as far as strength wise. If your serious about the Navy then you need to focus on strenght training instead of how you will look without your shirt on at the Great Lakes.

Push-Ups Versus Weight-Lifting? | Transformetrics

Originally Posted by NavyBlood

Doing push-ups and body-weight exercises are good for you as far as strength wise. If your serious about the Navy then you need to focus on strenght training instead of how you will look without your shirt on at the Great Lakes.

Push-Ups Versus Weight-Lifting? | Transformetrics

Push-Ups Versus Weight-Lifting?

I recently received an e-mail from a man in his early 30s asking if Push-Ups and body-weight exercises are as effective as weight-lifting in building strength? My answer is that it depends on exactly how one defines strength.

If by strength you mean the ability to bench press the heaviest weight possible just one time, or to do the same with a dead lift or squat, the answer is no.
But if by strength you mean the ability to do relatively heavy work for an extended period of time, which is really a combination of strength backed by endurance, then you’ll definitely want to rely on Push-Ups and body-weight workouts.

Let’s take a look at just one example, former NFL great Herschel Walker. As an NFL running back Walker weighed 225 pounds and performed over 1,000 Push-Ups every day. When he did a single rep max on a bench press strength test he lifted 360 Lbs. But when he was benching 225 Lbs. (on the same-day strength test) for the max number he could perform 24 reps.

Bottom line: There are lots of men weighing 225 Lbs. who can bench press way beyond 400 Lbs. one time. But there are very few who can perform 1,000 Push-Ups in sets of 100 like Herschel Walker did on a daily basis.

So the answer is that for sheer one-rep power, you cannot get as strong performing only body weight exercises. But you can certainly become incredibly strong—with endurance and a beautifully sculpted physique to back up your strength—by relying on Push-Ups and body-weight workouts.—J.P.

My father-in-law turned me on to the TRICKS system (for lack of a better term) that is really quite remarkable. Using two straps with handles (that run through a single caribiner), anchored to a post, top of door, etc, you run through a series of exercises using your own body weight as resistance.

Although I've only been at it for a few weeks now, I can tell you that it works rather well. The thing this tool does is recruits many of the small stabilizing muscles that you just can't with other conventional systems. Your trunk and abs are constantly engaged, and you'll be sweating bullets in no time!

I made my own set of straps based on my father-in-laws set, using old S&M leather straps and l I had lying around.

This is something that could easily fit into a purse, let alone suitcase, briefcase, etc. Great tool for someone on the go. You could use this in any motel room, gym, inside secured by a door, or outside tied to a tree while your naked.

Well worth a look.

Originally Posted by Titansgymflunky

I'm not sure if its beneficial to me to lift weights in preparation for navy bootcamp. sure its gona help me look better, but as far as body weight excersises, would it jsut be better to do the excersise itself. Like for push ups I work out tri's, shoulders and do some weighted push ups. for sit ups I do these crunchlike things on a decline bench, and work my obliques. For running I work my legs.

Basicly, body weight excersises improve pretty quickly; you can double the amount of push ups you can do in a month or 2, but freeweights on the other hand take about 3 months to see a big change.....

I have about 50 more days until I leave..... should I say fuck the free weights and do as much body weight as i can or do you think a mixture would give me more improvement?

I'm leaving for Navy boot camp as well, and it seems apparent you haven't read your handbook, or talked to your recruiter much...(No offense) But, your questions are answered with what we are given...

A buddy of mine also just got back from Navy boot. It's nothing like any of the other branches and whoever said Air force are the tough guys doesn't know what he is talking about either...Marine boot camp is the hardest, period...Seal training and SWCC are after boot, so this is irrelevant with boot camp training.

Navy does not do pull ups. 80% of our training is in doors. We are sailors, not soldiers. They have a fake ship inside our training facility and we focus on real life situations to prepare ourselves for deployment. (Universal made our training ship) Depending on your age, depends on how many push ups, sit ups, and how long you have to perform a 1.5 mile run. Generally speaking, you will be fine if you can do 50 push ups in 2mins, 60 sit ups in 2mins and a 1.5 mile run in 12mins. This will not pass you with high standards, but you can graduate boot camp doing this...So, entering boot camp being able to do this, will make you almost top 10% of your class, because you will be getting in better shape as your there.

The navy, or any branch of the military just wants you in decent shape. They are trying to get rid of the people who can't do 20 push ups...If your in decent shape, you will be fine.

Lifting weights? Of course it's fine. As long as you can do the numbers i mentioned above, your fine. Building muscle will only help you...I suggest running 1.5 miles 2-3 times a week to improve your time. Make sure you can run under 12mins. Include push ups in your weight training. On chest day, burnout with push ups or something...

As long as you workout and do something active, your doing more than 70% of people in Navy DEP.

You could also go to the Navy PT trainings...Not sure if you have those, but we have them...