Here is what I think:
www.ironmagazine.com/training8.htm
It might be good to throw in once in awhile but
"Stick with the basics"
It's called a bench pull or bench row. I can't say I've ever seen anyone do these before, but it looks like a decent movement with very little strain on the lower back.
Seems to me it would work very similiar muscles to a seated pulley row? I wouldn't mind trying to incorporate these into my back routine, perhaps as a substitute for seated pulley rows (Would have to make some platforms for my bench though). Whaddya think?
Here is what I think:
www.ironmagazine.com/training8.htm
It might be good to throw in once in awhile but
"Stick with the basics"
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That looks decent. Definitely a no cheater exercise so you can't do as much weight as you would doing regular b/o rows. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks.
TJohn
We have a T-bar machine similar to that and it kills my sternum when using heavy weight. I don't use it anymore. I like barbell rows done the old fashioned way the best.
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It is a very nice movement for isolating the upper back. Great to use when your lower back is tired or sore, or simply as a change of pace.
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Yeah, they're called supported T bar rows. My gym has one and i love it.Originally posted by Rob_NC
We have a T-bar machine similar to that and it kills my sternum when using heavy weight. I don't use it anymore. I like barbell rows done the old fashioned way the best.
Have you tried re-adjusted the footing position so your sternum isn't taking the brunt of the weight?
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I use this sometimes with dumbells, and it seems to work pretty well if you Squeeze and hold the muscle.
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Yeah, they're called supported T bar rows. My gym has one and i love it.
Have you tried re-adjusted the footing position so your sternum isn't taking the brunt of the weight?
Yeah, I've tried that. Problem is, I'm so tall that the machine doesn't fit me properly. I stick to barbell rows and an improvised T-bar movement with a barbell loaded on one end and a close-grip cable attachment as the handle. Both work really well.
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Ditto, the machine where I work out at doesn't have an adjustable foot-base. Tried it for awhile, but just stick to barbell rows now. Just about makes it so you can't breath using the thing.
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I pretty much do stick to the basics. I do deads every workout and have been doing barbell rows every workout too. But lately I've been thinking maybe it's too hard on the lower back doing all the big movements (deadlift, barbell row, stiff-legged deadlift, squat) *every* week. I was toying with the idea of never doing deads and barbell rows in the same work out.Here is what I think:
www.ironmagazine.com/training8.htm
It might be good to throw in once in awhile but
"Stick with the basics"
Also, something I noticed is the way most people perform seated pulley rows, as the guy the pic below is. They really round their back as they pull the weight back. Surely this is terrible form??
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In the pic you've shown, quakin, I would prefer a wider grip. It'll target the stronger back muscles and won't allow you to cheat with the triceps and lower back.
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I noticed that to TCD but to be honest, I liked the IM one better anyway.Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
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Quakin, leaning forward isn't to bad, it gives you a better stretch just as long as your not leaning back at the end of the movment.
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Well okay, now I'm confused.Quakin, leaning forward isn't to bad, it gives you a better stretch just as long as your not leaning back at the end of the movment.Why is it okay to round your back when pulling the weight in a seated row and not okay in deadlifts, barbell rows etc? I've always thought never, ever round your back when lifting/pulling in any exercise.
When you are pulling from the floor your spine is in a very precarious position, and the back should not be rounded to any great degree. With seated pully rows it is not as bad to round a little while stretching, but DO NOT OVERDO IT. It is better to stretch by leaning foward WITHOUT really rounding, and letting your shoulders relax foward and " releasing" the lats.
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