Thread: different areas of a muscle

There are alot of different views on this and maybe you will start a ww3, but if your concerned, why don't you just stick with compound exercises and forget about isolating?

Do yourself a favor and read the stickies in the training section. They will answer a lot of your questions. You should also be posting training questions in the training forum. This is the open chat forum. No big deal. Good luck.

Originally Posted by katt

why don't you just stick with compound exercises and forget about isolating?

I second that. There is a whole sticky about this in the training section.

katt how many exercises do you do for each body part and can you help clear something up for me - if the 3 good mass builders for triceps are close grip bench press, dip/weighted dips, and skull crushers is there really a need to do them all. is it just for Variation and for people who like doing several exercises. to you think that for triceps one mass building exercise such as dips, maybe 5 sets and then one shapeing exercise such as kickbacks, maybe 3 sets is ok for triceps. and then for biceps one mass builder such as barbell curls, maybe 5 sets, and one shapeing exercise such as Concentrated curls, maybe 3 sets is ok. so just two exercise for each inshead of several different exercises. i need to know because i dont like doing many different exercises, so is it just for variation or is there a real need.

where is the training forum?

Originally Posted by UFC rocks

katt how many exercises do you do for each body part and can you help clear something up for me - if the 3 good mass builders for triceps are close grip bench press, dip/weighted dips, and skull crushers is there really a need to do them all. is it just for Variation and for people who like doing several exercises. to you think that for triceps one mass building exercise such as dips, maybe 5 sets and then one shapeing exercise such as kickbacks, maybe 3 sets is ok for triceps. and then for biceps one mass builder such as barbell curls, maybe 5 sets, and one shapeing exercise such as Concentrated curls, maybe 3 sets is ok. so just two exercise for each inshead of several different exercises. i need to know because i dont like doing many different exercises, so is it just for variation or is there a real need.

There is no such thing as a shaping exercise. A muscle can only grow or shrink, shape is all genetically predetermined. If you mean getting the muscle cut, then that is all diet with a little cardio thrown in.

Stick with the big compound exercises for the most part - you don't need something ridiculously complex. Lift, eat, sleep, grow. Four (sort of) easy steps.

does that mean there is no difference between a barbell curl and a concentrated curl, or a dip and a kickback, surely you can't gain mass from kickback, and if you can't then what do they do?

GOD, I wish we still had the thread from years ago with Gopro and the other guys on chest isolation debate. That was classic.

i do all the compound exercises. i just want to know are there so many exercises purly for variation, can you gain size and strengh from just two exercises pre muscle group.

Compound movements are a must to gain size. As far as sets go, if you fatigue the muscle in two sets, then it may be enough for you. Normally though, 3 sets is what everyone considers optimum.

There is variation for a reason.. you can't stick to the same routine, day in and day out without change and think you're going to grow. You need to always "shock" your muscles, changing the reps, routine, or you're going to get nothing more than newbie gains. Granted your going to get 'some' size and strength, but without constant change, every 6-8 weeks, and keeping your diet balanced and where you want it - for what you're trying to achieve at the moment, you're going just so far and you're not going to advance...

That's just the way I see things imo.. everyone has a different view on what it takes for them to get where they want to be. That's just it - it's different for every one, you have to find out what suits you most and what works for you.