Originally Posted by Namo

I'm gonna do some front swats tonight, maybe some hack swats while im at it......

Then some bunch preaches.....

Originally Posted by Big G

Really?

Originally Posted by Namo

the one on the right is pretty hot, the other 2 look like dudes

Originally Posted by Witchblade

If that is your counterargument, I'm with danny...

Originally Posted by Witchblade

If that is your counterargument, I'm with danny...

Originally Posted by Big G

Really?

Originally Posted by Namo

you're the last person that should have any input on this thread, anorexic douche

Originally Posted by danny81

stfu u fat faggit

Originally Posted by danny81

gross

Originally Posted by katt

I think girls are the worst about it

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Yeah, no fucking shit. I grow tired of explaining that working out doesnt get you "bulked up" which is the excuse I hear constantly.

And Big G's pics arent that bad. Ive seen worse...Id fuck them. THe one on the right is best though...even though the middle's have the nicest tits from what can be seen.


To answer the question about why they are considered full body...

Squat: Your quads and hamstrings help extend the knee to do the concentric portion of the lift.

Hamstrings extened the hip mainly. With a closed kinetic chain, hamstrings may help with a small amount of exntesion at the knee by helping to actually pull it to lock out. But, for the most part it is a hip extensor and knee FLEXOR.

Even though the quads do most of the extension work,

all of the extension work at the knee.

the hamstrings help with the flexion on the decent. They help make sure you dont just DROP, but slow the weight in the controlled manner.

wrong. you are not actively flexing the hamstrings on the decent of a squat. you are sitting back and your knees are flexing, but what is making sure you don't drop down and fall on your ass is really the knee extensors which are performing a strong eccentric contraction and at the hip, the hip extensors which are also performing a strong eccentric contraction (so at the hip, yes the hamstrings would be doing at eccentric contraction along with the glute max). As well, the glute med/min are helping to prevent you from flopping down as they are also active hip flexors/abductors/internal rotators and are needed for proper frontal plane stability of the hip musculature. Poor glute med/min firing can be seen in old people when they go to sit in a chair and just flop down on the last quarter of the movement.

Your calves are also working to keep the ankle stabilized, keeping the heels from coming off the ground.

Calves work to stabilize the ankle, yes. Expecially the interplay between the peroneals and the posterior tibilalis; as well as the interplay between the plantar flexors and the dorsiflexors (anterior tib.). The heels come of the ground if you are overly tight i plantar flexion. As well, the big objective of the calves at the bottom of the lift is to plantar flex the ankle and develop force from the ground up (as the act of squatting down actively places our ankle into a dorsi flexed position, allowing us to utilize the stretch reflex of the achilles tendon).


Your glutes also help as much as if not more with hip extension/flexion.

Glute max is big time in hip extension if it is firing properly. In most people, their hamstrings are over dominate as well as their adductor magnus, which also helps to extend the hip. But, glute max is the big one. The other two gluteal muscles have slightly different mechanics, with the glute min. being a hip flexor, interal rotator and abductor and the glute med. having posterior fibers which extend and externally rotate the hip and anterior fibers which flex and interally rotate the hip and both anterior and posterior fibers effectively contributing to hip abduction.

Your abs and lower back stabilize the ever loving shit of whatever weight is on your shoulders. If your abs/lower back is weak, you get a bunch of rounding of the torso which is a cunt hair away of basically collapsing. If the abs/lower back is strong, they will keep your torso or CORE straight and stabilized. Your upper back and traps serve as stabilizers too making sure the bar doesnt move.

If your shoulders, either the posterior or anterior are moving in any sort of way, that bar is going to break that fuckign neck of yours in a hurry.

not sure what you mean by that.


Deadlift: This one is a doozy. The legs have similiar duties as the squat, but it depends on the type of deadlift being done. Hamstrings are more dominant in this exercise, however.

Depends on how low you start the lift. All of the hip extensors need to be really strong on this lift.


Only this time, your upper body works differently than before. Your forearms have to be strong enough to lift that bar off the ground, yes? Your traps now serve as major stabilizers cuz they help keep the shoulders back and back arched.

Traps, rhoboids and all scapular stabilizers keep the shoulder back. Erectors (illiocostalis, longisimus and spinalis) keep the back arched as well as some help from the quadratus lumborum.

Your abs/lower back are once again keeping everything straight. Your glutes final movement mimic the movement of you fucking someone (in stroke )

As you can see, these movements call on a lot of muscles because the body should be TIGHT where movement is not merited. That takes muscular strength and endurance to do correctly. Because the rewards are so great, the demands for such form is so high and thus, is avoided by beginners cuz theyre harder to execute than a barbell curl.

Someone correct me or agree...might be just a matter of opinion, but I believe there is more total body strength going on in deadlifts than in squats. Either way, theyre pretty damn close.

Originally Posted by P-funk

anatomy.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

<ahem> physiology

For some reason I do always confuse "hip" with "knee" when thinking about movement. When I made that post, I kept thinking...hip AKIRA, hip! But you cleared that up nicely.

How does the ab summarization confuse you? I wasnt as technical (obviously), but the idea is still there.