Thread: I cant RUN ???

if shin splits are the problems, you've got to either:

a. deal with them
or
b. go to a doctor

Where are you running? What type of shoe are you wearing? Are you out of shape? Are you heavy? You have to ease into running, just like anything else.

I personally only run on a treadmill because it saves my knees (IOW it has some 'give' unlike road running).

HA

He could do some isolation on the front of his lower leg and/or heal and work into it more slowly.

i was running on the threadmill at the gym,,wearing Nike Sneakers..i havent run much in my life,,but i can skate for an hour without effects,i am 6 feet tall at 196 pounds...i am not in the best shape of my life,,Should i start with good Leg workouts to help me with the running..i gotta do a test in about 12 weeks....1,5 miles in 10 minutes is the marker which i gotta hit..any type of Hints or Exercises you ca help me with would be awesome..

These are the shoes im running in

Real running no leg workout for your goal 12 weeks out, IMHO.

Put your heal on the top of your foot just above the toes. Make it hard to move your foot up, move foot up. Do the other foot repeat while watching TV, surfing the web, studying or whatever. It will help with shin pain and help to balance muscles.

Find your second wind while running. When you find it you will know. Keep it up it may take a 4 weeks before you know what second wind is. Do a search on triathlon or alike and talk to those guys. These guys are in a different mode here and are on steroids.

thanks Hoglander....much appreciated man

Not everyone is on steroids, but most are in a different mode. Hoglander gave some good advice. If you're training for distance running, you need to go check out places that know about things like that. This is a bodybuilding board...we have some very knowledgeable people here who could help with sports specific stuff but they are few and far between. 12 weeks out and not able to run more than five minutes...you're cutting it close.

when your running look at you feet..see if they over-pronate (lateral side of foot lands first and weight rolls to medial side) basically why you get shin splints...mine do too much and tires my shins before my legs

Two things.....

1) Does the pain hurt only when you are running and then once you stop the pain goes away? If so, this is more consistent with anterior compartment syndrome and not as much shin splints. If the pain hurts when you run and keeps hurting after and even aches for days like DOMS, then this would be more consistent with shin splits. Two different pathologies that get confused.

2) ice helps a lot. getting your gait looked at can help get you on the right path of were to go.

What are you training for? You have to run 1.5miles in 10min? So basically a 6min. mile pace. The good thing is that it is a relatively short distance. 12 weeks is a good amount of time. I would do some leg training (low volume) and use some very intensive running to develop speed and work on tolerating high amounts of lactic acid and then tempo runs to help enhance work capacity so that you can maintain your speed for the entire test.

im training for the RCMP depot academy and one of the markers for running is 1.5 miles in 10 min and 45 seconds...thanks for everyone;s replies..

Rcmp? Is this marines or somthin military related?
Any how the physical requirements sound like whats required of new recruits.

1st the shin splints, if you run flat footed the shock might be causing them, dont worry though I run flat footed most of the time, runnin on the balls of my feet feels weird to me unless I'm sprinting. I get shin splints too, If I where you I'd try to take a week off from having to much high impact on your legs. Think about it like this, if you allow your legs to heal up and rest for the week, instead of damaging them further, you're gains should be better.
You'll be able to push yourself more on legs that arent hurting like a mofo, so it'll pay off in the longrun. rest one week out of 12 and be able to push yourself more for the remaining 11. I'd still walk and get light excerscise.

Maybe you could get your aerobics and endurance for the week on an eliptical or a bike.


I'm leaving for bootcamp in 4 days, I've been running and doing bodyweight excercise for a while now. I run a mile and a half in 9:45. I can tell you the best way to make gains in speed and endurance from my personal experience. Next time you go running just picture how bad you want to do awesome in RCMP. Get to your comfortable pace, and then tell yourself to stop being a bitch, and run at a speed that makes it hard to catch your breath. Then instead of walking, try to jog instead, so your heartrate doesnt drop as much and you keep your lungs working harder then normal.Unless you have asthma, in which case dont take my advice, cause you could endanger your health and need to go at a more slow steady pace.
Anyhow by pushing yourself your body will get used to running at that speed, and eventually that speed wont make you lose your breath. When you reach this point, go even faster. You'll increase your pace speed like crazy. I rest a day inbetween runs, and practice runnin a mile cause it helps me increase pace speed at a faster rate. When you get good at runnin the mile,runnin that extra half at show time wont hurt you to bad. Remember pain is weakness leaving the body, unless is excrutiating, or you're getting really dizzy.

Good luck man you're gonna do great. when you get decent at it runnin feels awesome. Its kinda like how with a punchin back you can put all your energy into a solid punch and dont have to worry about breaking your hand, or someones face. You can go running and just put all your energy into it as long as you have somewhere to run. Anyway, hope I helped. Later man.

Push your body as hard as you can, thats where the good gains are.

1st the shin splints, if you run flat footed the shock might be causing them, dont worry though I run flat footed most of the time, runnin on the balls of my feet feels weird to me unless I'm sprinting. I get shin splints too, If I where you I'd try to take a week off from having to much high impact on your legs. Think about it like this, if you allow your legs to heal up and rest for the week, instead of damaging them further, you're gains should be better.
You'll be able to push yourself more on legs that arent hurting like a mofo, so it'll pay off in the longrun. rest one week out of 12 and be able to push yourself more for the remaining 11. I'd still walk and get light excerscise.

Huh?


Running on the balls of the feet and running flat footed are not even opopsites of each other. You are talking about two totally different things and two totally different gait cycles. Running on the balls of the feet would make you a toe walker. Running flat footed means that your arches are caving in causing over pronation of the foot. I think you are trying to describe a normal gait pattern of heel to toe movement.

RCMP = royal Canadian mounted police...federal level police

Originally Posted by P-funk

Huh?


Running on the balls of the feet and running flat footed are not even opopsites of each other. You are talking about two totally different things and two totally different gait cycles. Running on the balls of the feet would make you a toe walker. Running flat footed means that your arches are caving in causing over pronation of the foot. I think you are trying to describe a normal gait pattern of heel to toe movement.

if you'r slamming your foot down flat as opposed to running heel to toe or on the front (balls) of your feet, then you'll get shin splints like a mofo.
and in my oppinion you run faster on the balls of your feet, and running on the balls of your feet, is opposite of running flatfooted, if your runnign on the balls of your feet your heels rarely, if ever hit the ground.

Yes lets take a look at you for a second, giant bulky bodybuilder, not saying this is bad, you worked to get there and could probably break me like a toothpick, but I think I've got you on running knowledge, if nothing else then by the fact that i weigh 143 lbs which meens physics is on my side in this one.

I'd love to get you in a footrace

Originally Posted by andythegreat

if you'r slamming your foot down flat as opposed to running heel to toe or on the front (balls) of your feet, then you'll get shin splints like a mofo.
and in my oppinion you run faster on the balls of your feet, and running on the balls of your feet, is opposite of running flatfooted, if your runnign on the balls of your feet your heels rarely, if ever hit the ground.

Yes lets take a look at you for a second, giant bulky bodybuilder, not saying this is bad, you worked to get there and could probably break me like a toothpick, but I think I've got you on running knowledge, if nothing else then by the fact that i weigh 143 lbs which meens physics is on my side in this one.

I'd love to get you in a footrace

I am talking about the terms you are using to describe gait patterns. they aren't correct, so they make no sense. I know what you are saying, but you are describing it the wrong way.

Also, as far as running knowledge goes....don't fucking annoy me. I hate when morons get on here and talk bullshit and give their opinions. I do this shit for a living. I have nothing to do with bodybuilding.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I am talking about the terms you are using to describe gait patterns. they aren't correct, so they make no sense. I know what you are saying, but you are describing it the wrong way.

Also, as far as running knowledge goes....don't fucking annoy me. I hate when morons get on here and talk bullshit and give their opinions. I do this shit for a living. I have nothing to do with bodybuilding.

When you slam your foot down flat while running, flat meening your entire foot making impact in one motion, ie; no rolling effect.

When you run on the balls of your feet and your heels rarely make contact.

when you go from heel to toe, meening your foot makes impact in this order....heel followed by toe

not only did I make sense describing gaits I painted a pretty picture of them.... does it get much more simple then that?

If the person in your avatar is you then i seriously doubt you run for a living. maybe for a ho-ho, but not for a living.

As a matter of fact I do this "shit" for a living, I'll be leaving for bootcamp in 2 days.

And if you have nothing to do with bodybuilding why be a moderator on a bodybuilding site dipshit?

so dont you fucking annoy ME "moron"

seeing as how our friend is going to an academy, who's physical standards are somewhat identical to the ones of the navy entrance, I think my personal oppinions cater better to his needs, especially since I also had bad problems with shin splints and at one point in my life didnt have decent endurance. MY oppinions on reaching his goals are probably far more helpful then yours seing as how I'm at the head of my class on pt, doing nearly double what the other recruits strain to do, with ease.

Originally Posted by andythegreat

When you slam your foot down flat while running, flat meening your entire foot making impact in one motion, ie; no rolling effect.

when you slam your foot down on the ground and it is not a smooth heel to toe movement it means you have no initial contact.


When you run on the balls of your feet and your heels rarely make contact.

no shit sherlock. sprinters typically run more on their toes or have a mid-foot strike. Some distances runners have been shown to also strike with mid foot and not do the traditional heel to toe gait cycle. most of those that display this are more elite runners; however it is an individual thing. the most common way to run/walk is heel to toe.


when you go from heel to toe, meening your foot makes impact in this order....heel followed by toe


no shit.


not only did I make sense describing gaits I painted a pretty picture of them.... does it get much more simple then that?

no, you described PATHOLOGIES not gait mechanics. those are two different things.


If the person in your avatar is you then i seriously doubt you run for a living. maybe for a ho-ho, but not for a living.

Sprinting = running. You are seriously fucking stupid.



As a matter of fact I do this "shit" for a living, I'll be leaving for bootcamp in 2 days.

Going to boot camp is not studying biomechanics. I don't tell you how to fire a gun....don't tell me about analyzing gait patterns...I do it everyday.

Originally Posted by andythegreat

And if you have nothing to do with bodybuilding why be a moderator on a bodybuilding site dipshit?

so dont you fucking annoy ME "moron"

Understanding exercise, exercise physiology and the adaptations that take place in the human body when an individual engages in an exercise program is pretty cut and dry. It doesn't matter if you do sports performance or bodybuiding, if you understand the science behind it, you can give proper instruction to help meet anyones goals.

Originally Posted by andythegreat

And if you have nothing to do with bodybuilding why be a moderator on a bodybuilding site dipshit?

so dont you fucking annoy ME "moron"

seeing as how our friend is going to an academy, who's physical standards are somewhat identical to the ones of the navy entrance, I think my personal oppinions cater better to his needs, especially since I also had bad problems with shin splints and at one point in my life didnt have decent endurance. MY oppinions on reaching his goals are probably far more helpful then yours seing as how I'm at the head of my class on pt, doing nearly double what the other recruits strain to do, with ease.

And before you go off about how pussyfied the navy is I'm going to special forces as soon as i get in.

keep justifying it dude.

Look, i am not trying to fight with you. i knew what you were trying to say, i was just saying that you were describing it with improper terminology.

I like a good arguement

not a expert in running terminology, you have me there i guesse, I speak for the simple man who runs.

you have the same IP as brutus g.

You can see my ip adress? do what?

yes, i can see you IP addy.

the fact that you are coming in with different names is not cool.