Chin ups and shoulder press

Richie1888 · 02-05-2008, 08:04 AM

hi guys got a couple of question im hoping you can help with.

first one is whats the best way to improve on wg chin ups apart from trying to do more as I can only do about 1 or 2 at a push?

second one is when working on shoulders is it best to do a seated db bench press or a full overhead military press?

cheers guys

Metallibanger · 02-05-2008, 08:33 AM

1. Do them with the help of a spotter, emphasizing the negatives
2. Overhead presses

min0 lee · 02-05-2008, 08:46 AM

When I'm seated I tend to go lighter, but when I do them standing I go a bit heavier....I can cheat while standing.

Mags · 02-05-2008, 08:53 AM

Integrate lat pulldowns into your training if you haven't done so already. Use this technique (as well as others) to grow more muscle that will help you lift your own bodyweight. Secondly, keep practicing as you'll get better at them, even if it's only one rep a week etc. I sucked at these when I first started and used to swing about like a sodding gibbon until I got used to it.

As for your shoulders, I found dumbells made my delts grow faster, but for overall power and strength, Military press all the way.

DOMS · 02-05-2008, 08:57 AM

Do them assisted. No single thing has helped me to do them better than doing them assisted.

Mags · 02-05-2008, 09:15 AM

Some gyms have Chin-up machines with footpads to assist/keep you from swinging back and forth.

fUnc17 · 02-05-2008, 10:44 AM

If you can do 2 chinups, do 1 everyday throughout the day (many sets). Strength is a skill and the only way to get better is to practice

Swede · 02-05-2008, 11:04 AM

Why not do both military and dumb bell presses?? I do both. I like to start with military presses going heavy 6 to 8 reps per set. Then, I do dumb bell presses using a weight I can handle 10 to 12 reps per set and finishing with lateral, front and rear delt dumb bell raises - these I do doing drop sets on each movement for a total of approx 20 reps/set.

02-05-2008, 08:04 AM	#1
Richie1888 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,179	Chin ups and shoulder press hi guys got a couple of question im hoping you can help with. first one is whats the best way to improve on wg chin ups apart from trying to do more as I can only do about 1 or 2 at a push? second one is when working on shoulders is it best to do a seated db bench press or a full overhead military press? cheers guys
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02-05-2008, 08:46 AM	#3
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,809 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	When I'm seated I tend to go lighter, but when I do them standing I go a bit heavier....I can cheat while standing.
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02-05-2008, 08:53 AM	#4
Mags We ate the toys eddie! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: East London, UK Posts: 908 Photos: 8	Integrate lat pulldowns into your training if you haven't done so already. Use this technique (as well as others) to grow more muscle that will help you lift your own bodyweight. Secondly, keep practicing as you'll get better at them, even if it's only one rep a week etc. I sucked at these when I first started and used to swing about like a sodding gibbon until I got used to it. As for your shoulders, I found dumbells made my delts grow faster, but for overall power and strength, Military press all the way.
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02-05-2008, 08:57 AM	#5
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,725 Photos: 6	Do them assisted. No single thing has helped me to do them better than doing them assisted.
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02-05-2008, 09:15 AM	#6
Mags We ate the toys eddie! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: East London, UK Posts: 908 Photos: 8	Some gyms have Chin-up machines with footpads to assist/keep you from swinging back and forth.
	BUILD IT, AND THEY WILL COME. THE ONLY TIME SUCCESS COMES BEFORE WORK IS IN THE DICTIONARY. DO OR DO NOT - THERE IS NO TRY.

02-05-2008, 08:33 AM	#2
Metallibanger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: - Posts: 287 Photos: 13	1. Do them with the help of a spotter, emphasizing the negatives 2. Overhead presses

02-05-2008, 10:44 AM	#7
fUnc17 Drop and give me 100 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jersey Shore BJJ Posts: 1,871 Photos: 10	If you can do 2 chinups, do 1 everyday throughout the day (many sets). Strength is a skill and the only way to get better is to practice
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02-05-2008, 11:04 AM	#8
Swede Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 47	Why not do both military and dumb bell presses?? I do both. I like to start with military presses going heavy 6 to 8 reps per set. Then, I do dumb bell presses using a weight I can handle 10 to 12 reps per set and finishing with lateral, front and rear delt dumb bell raises - these I do doing drop sets on each movement for a total of approx 20 reps/set.
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