Cardio Question

JAja04 · 02-18-2008, 09:30 AM

I have a concern in regards to my cardio. I'm concerned that maybe my cardio is counterproductive making me catabolic. I run 4miles in 26 1/2 minutes with my heartbeating at 90% of its max. Is this catabolic? Should i be running slower. Is there a certain range i should be looking to run at. I'm currently 210lbs. with 15% body fat.

**Gazhole** · 02-18-2008, 01:21 PM

This is an impossible question to answer going off the information you've given.

Whats making you come to this conclusion?

JAja04 · 02-18-2008, 06:13 PM

I haven't come to any conclusion.. I just obviously don't want to do something that is counter-productive. What other information would you need?

Jay

**Gazhole** · 02-18-2008, 06:28 PM

I meant the conclusion that its catabolic. What is making you think this? Have you lost muscle?

JAja04 · 02-18-2008, 08:45 PM

No i haven't lost muscle. It just seemed to me that being at 90% of your maximum heart rate for 26 1/2 minutes running 4 miles could be catabolic. For fat burning purposes mostly I read to run between 65-80% of your maximum heart rate.. my only probelm with that is after i complete a workout like that i don't feel like i worked out that hard. On the other hand 4 miles in 26 1/2 minutes.. you feel like you did something.

Jay

**Gazhole** · 02-19-2008, 04:44 AM

I wouldnt worry. Theres no such thing as these "fat burning zones" or whatever. If you're not seeing any negative effects from it, then it isnt a problem, right?

oneovercabin · 02-19-2008, 11:05 AM

calories in - calories out

But I doubt you're running for 25+ minutes with your heart rate at 90% of its max.

Ronin_TS · 03-31-2008, 08:24 AM

if your worried about losing increase calorie intake and take glutamine its very good in preventin catabolism

k-lock · 03-31-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneovercabin

calories in - calories out

But I doubt you're running for 25+ minutes with your heart rate at 90% of its max.

this is very possible to do, and not uncommon!
I have run 3 miles in less than 18 min numerous times
it just means that hes running a lil over a 6 min mile, which is superb, to most peoples standards, but if you have ran enough, and of course-got the heart and determination to do it, its not that hard!

ask most of your military friends, mostly marines tho.

sorry, just thot i would add that on his behalf...even tho ive never seen or heard of him!

lojasmo · 04-01-2008, 04:14 PM

High intensity short duration (what you're doing) is better than low intensity long duration.

goob · 04-02-2008, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-lock

this is very possible to do, and not uncommon!
I have run 3 miles in less than 18 min numerous times
it just means that hes running a lil over a 6 min mile, which is superb, to most peoples standards, but if you have ran enough, and of course-got the heart and determination to do it, its not that hard!

ask most of your military friends, mostly marines tho.

sorry, just thot i would add that on his behalf...even tho ive never seen or heard of him!

This is true, I have run similar time 3mile-18min, and 4 mile 26 min with a heart rate monitor on, outdoors, and it registered between 80-90 % max heart rate. So, it is very possible, but it's very harsh on you.

**P-funk** · 04-02-2008, 10:28 PM

how did you come up with your max?

220-age?

220-age-resting HR?

take a guess?

take a test?

rmcfar · 04-03-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lojasmo

High intensity short duration (what you're doing) is better than low intensity long duration.

in regards to?

**P-funk** · 04-03-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmcfar

in regards to?

+1

Most people throw out that statment (HIT is greater than doing regular cardio) without any clue of what they are talking about. They simply except it as fact because it has been popularized and published in magazine articles and other websites.

Follow along in my blog over the next few entries. I will be addressing cardio for awhile.

goob · 04-03-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

how did you come up with your max?

220-age?

220-age-resting HR?

take a guess?

take a test?

220 - age.

Plus, my heart was hammering like hell, I doubt it could beat that much faster...

02-18-2008, 09:30 AM	#1
JAja04 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pitts/ PA Posts: 20	Cardio Question I have a concern in regards to my cardio. I'm concerned that maybe my cardio is counterproductive making me catabolic. I run 4miles in 26 1/2 minutes with my heartbeating at 90% of its max. Is this catabolic? Should i be running slower. Is there a certain range i should be looking to run at. I'm currently 210lbs. with 15% body fat.

02-18-2008, 01:21 PM	#2
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 6,532 Photos: 18	This is an impossible question to answer going off the information you've given. Whats making you come to this conclusion?
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02-18-2008, 06:28 PM	#4
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 6,532 Photos: 18	I meant the conclusion that its catabolic. What is making you think this? Have you lost muscle?
	http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 02/12/08 "Do i not like that? No, i do not not like that, i LIKE that!"

02-19-2008, 04:44 AM	#6
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 6,532 Photos: 18	I wouldnt worry. Theres no such thing as these "fat burning zones" or whatever. If you're not seeing any negative effects from it, then it isnt a problem, right?
	http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 02/12/08 "Do i not like that? No, i do not not like that, i LIKE that!"

04-01-2008, 04:14 PM	#10
lojasmo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 68	High intensity short duration (what you're doing) is better than low intensity long duration.
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02-18-2008, 06:13 PM	#3
JAja04 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pitts/ PA Posts: 20	I haven't come to any conclusion.. I just obviously don't want to do something that is counter-productive. What other information would you need? Jay

02-18-2008, 08:45 PM	#5
JAja04 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pitts/ PA Posts: 20	No i haven't lost muscle. It just seemed to me that being at 90% of your maximum heart rate for 26 1/2 minutes running 4 miles could be catabolic. For fat burning purposes mostly I read to run between 65-80% of your maximum heart rate.. my only probelm with that is after i complete a workout like that i don't feel like i worked out that hard. On the other hand 4 miles in 26 1/2 minutes.. you feel like you did something. Jay

02-19-2008, 11:05 AM	#7
oneovercabin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 82 Blog Entries: 2	calories in - calories out But I doubt you're running for 25+ minutes with your heart rate at 90% of its max.

03-31-2008, 08:24 AM	#8
Ronin_TS Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 9	if your worried about losing increase calorie intake and take glutamine its very good in preventin catabolism

04-02-2008, 10:28 PM	#12
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	how did you come up with your max? 220-age? 220-age-resting HR? take a guess? take a test?
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