Shin Splints

tallcall · 02-18-2008, 08:09 PM

I'm not sure if this should be under Health or not.

Have any of you guys had Shin Splints (of any kind)? If so, how have you dealt with them?

I'm getting them pretty bad

and just want to see if anyone else here has had the same problem.

Thanks in advance!

DontStop · 02-18-2008, 08:21 PM

I used to have really bad shin splints.
Part fo the reson was my running form. The other parts had to do with my running frequency and the type of runner I had. for a while i just popped a bunch of advil to ease the pain and I kept running...but thats what gave me a stress fracture so...haha

What I did was replace my running with spin classes for awhile, i also had a running coach at my gym look at my form and correct me accordingly. I also splurged on $300 running shoes. I haven't had a splint since

lucifuge · 02-18-2008, 08:26 PM

I had some miserable shin splints a couple years ago. A buddy of mine who runs marathons told me it was more than likely my shoes. I bought some new shoes and it didn't get any better, so then he suggested I try wrapping my shins when I run.... I never did, I just said screw it and gave up running.

tallcall · 02-18-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DontStop

I used to have really bad shin splints.
Part fo the reson was my running form. The other parts had to do with my running frequency and the type of runner I had. for a while i just popped a bunch of advil to ease the pain and I kept running...but thats what gave me a stress fracture so...haha

What I did was replace my running with spin classes for awhile, i also had a running coach at my gym look at my form and correct me accordingly. I also splurged on $300 running shoes. I haven't had a splint since

I'm going to change most of my gym cardio to cycling, but I also practice Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and that tends to involve a lot of sprinting on a heavily padded mat. I think I'm going to give up most of the cardio and the sprinting for about 2 weeks (see if the instructor will let me warm-up with stretches in the middle of the mat instead of running for a while).

tallcall · 02-18-2008, 08:28 PM

I will not give up the Jiu-Jitsu. I refuse to believe that they will not heal if I give them several weeks and take things easy.

DontStop · 02-18-2008, 08:37 PM

Oh they heal. But it takes longer to heal the more you neglect it (common sense)

tallcall · 02-18-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DontStop

Oh they heal. But it takes longer to heal the more you neglect it (common sense)

Yeah, my brother is interning in a hospital around here. He has seen the kinds of stress fractures these things cause and has given me a kind of order to take time off from all of it to allow this to heal then get back into things gradually.

fufu · 02-18-2008, 09:07 PM

What sort of condition are your shoes in/what kind and have you had a kinesiologist or physical therapist take a look at your gait and running form?

tallcall · 02-18-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

What sort of condition are your shoes in/what kind and have you had a kinesiologist or physical therapist take a look at your gait and running form?

My shoes are running shoes and are new. Also, I haven't had anyone really look at my gait or running form. Most of the trainers I talk to just suggest I land on the heel and roll to the balls of my feet, but I honestly don't know if I'm doing that correctly.

tallcall · 02-18-2008, 09:14 PM

I'm going to sleep, I'll check back in a little while. Nighty-Night everyone

Witchblade · 02-19-2008, 07:08 AM

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tallcall · 02-19-2008, 08:50 AM

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Yeah, I see it there. I guess I'll just continue to rest them until I have no pain.

I'm getting rid of any treadmill running as well in favor of the softer surface I will end up running on for BJJ. For now I'm going to see if I can just skip the running warm-ups and go for some stretching, this way I can still participate in the rolling sessions (doesn't usually put very much pressure on my shins).

I'm going to try to ice them down as well. My brother's fiance was a athletic trainer and has offered to help. Got to keep them elevated above the heart and wrapped in a cold towel. Also use an Ace bandage to wrap them when I go to the gym or practice to allow my skin to breath and provide compression at the same time. Also apply lotion and an anti itch cream to keep everything nice and smooth

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We'll see how this works.

AKIRA · 02-19-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifuge

I had some miserable shin splints a couple years ago. A buddy of mine who runs marathons told me it was more than likely my shoes. I bought some new shoes and it didn't get any better, so then he suggested I try wrapping my shins when I run.... I never did, I just said screw it and gave up running.

oneovercabin · 02-19-2008, 10:03 AM

First of all, you should stop running for a bit. Second, how long has it been since you got new shoes? You should replace your shoes about every 300 miles.

It could be because of form, but I think shoes are a common problem for people with shin splints.

tallcall · 02-19-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by oneovercabin

First of all, you should stop running for a bit. Second, how long has it been since you got new shoes? You should replace your shoes about every 300 miles.

It could be because of form, but I think shoes are a common problem for people with shin splints.

I just bought mine about a month ago, and normally I run about 20 minutes on a treadmill at the gym. Most of my running is now barefoot on a soft surface and used as a warm-up for martial arts, nothing else.

I've been practicing walking on the balls of my feet and then also on just the heels. I've gotten pretty good and can go longer distances now and the shin pain has lessened ever since.

goob · 02-19-2008, 02:25 PM

Stretch. With feet together, lean as far forward with them flat on the flood as you can and hold (up to 45 degrees if poss), until you feel the calf backs stretch. Take one leg off ground and rock forward on the foot still on round, while leaning forward. Swap.

I used to get them until I started this bizarre stretch routine. Never had one since, and that includes 4-10 mile runs on concrete.

AKIRA · 02-19-2008, 05:43 PM

goob, are you holdin onto something I hope?

<~Gets shin spints too.

Merkaba · 02-22-2008, 12:31 AM

I used to get them when I ran alot. They kinda just went away. I would ice them a bit and started doing shin exercises. I never get them anymore.

goob · 02-22-2008, 05:08 AM

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goob, are you holdin onto something I hope?

<~Gets shin spints too.

Yeah, lean against a wall. Damn that would be freaky if not....

Try it. I have'nt had a shin splint since I started doing it. Good shoes are a must too, don't skimp on these, get someone to assess your running style and choose a shoe type for you.

Karolina · 02-23-2008, 12:46 PM

I get shin splints too and here's what I've noticed:

I get them when I run on the treadmill
Don't get them as badly when running outside (asphalt or track)
If I run much farther or faster than I'm used to I tend to get shin splints
They're worse if my shoes aren't tied correctly
It's always much worse on my weaker leg

oneovercabin · 02-23-2008, 02:59 PM

It's really about shoes and form IMO. Make sure your shoes are tight enough and that you replace them often enough.

tallcall · 02-23-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oneovercabin

It's really about shoes and form IMO. Make sure your shoes are tight enough and that you replace them often enough.

I agree, but I am not going to be running in shoes anymore. I'm doing all my running on the mat from now on, so it's all barefoot.

**P-funk** · 02-23-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tallcall

I agree, but I am not going to be running in shoes anymore. I'm doing all my running on the mat from now on, so it's all barefoot.

why do you think that would remedy your problem?

tallcall · 02-23-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

why do you think that would remedy your problem?

I don't think it would necessarily remedy the problem, I'm just saying that shoes aren't going to be the main issue since I won't be using any shoes in the first place. Stride and foot-strike may be the focal point for me.

Of course it could be as simple as the fact that I used to switch from hard to soft then back to hard surfaces (one day on hard and soft, the next on soft, then a day on hard, etc). I know that kind of switching has also been known to cause problems, so I want to try eliminating one type of surface and see if it makes any difference. This pain has been coming and going for about a month and a half (since I started doing all of my normal cardio on a treadmill - before it was split up between the machines).

A few friends advised me to visit one of the shoe stores around here and have the people there analyze my stride, foot-strike, size me for a better pair of walking shoes and give me a better idea of my foot dimensions and where they should be on average. I'm planning on visiting as soon as I can (probably next week sometime).

Hoglander · 02-23-2008, 07:17 PM

I really wish you didn't bring Jujitsu into this. My daughter is training in it. I've been for many years. Currently she is covered with bruising from it she relishes her earned pain. She's proud of the pain and abuse. It makes her stronger and better. Bottom line is work through the injury quietly, IMHO.

tallcall · 02-23-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoglander

I really wish you didn't bring Jujitsu into this. My daughter is training in it. I've been for many years. Currently she is covered with bruising from it she relishes her earned pain. She's proud of the pain and abuse. It makes her stronger and better. Bottom line is work through the injury quietly, IMHO.

Oh, I love the pain and abuse too, it's just the thought of fractures and not being able to walk (since it is in both legs) that makes me a little cautious. Also, my coaches over there want me on a lighter load until everything heals up. I still roll and do all the techniques and all the warm-ups except the sprinting (I also can't do penetration steps and most take-downs without feeling like my leg is about to snap).

Almost everyone I've talked to there has had these things and they all understand the pain. They suggested I rest everything too, drink lots of water, calcium, glucosamine, etc.

Sorry if this all sounds like an angry rant, I've just been pissed off for the last few days at everything. I can't tell if it is all my fault or not, or if everyone just hates me for maybe coming off as weak. I always punish myself to an extreme, then find out that I was completely over-reacting, but I still feel all depressed angry and lonely. I'm especailly pissed off because of my performance (or la

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oneovercabin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 82 Blog Entries: 2	First of all, you should stop running for a bit. Second, how long has it been since you got new shoes? You should replace your shoes about every 300 miles. It could be because of form, but I think shoes are a common problem for people with shin splints.

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goob Smartass anthropologist Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Anywhere, everywhere, nowhere.... Posts: 5,995	Stretch. With feet together, lean as far forward with them flat on the flood as you can and hold (up to 45 degrees if poss), until you feel the calf backs stretch. Take one leg off ground and rock forward on the foot still on round, while leaning forward. Swap. I used to get them until I started this bizarre stretch routine. Never had one since, and that includes 4-10 mile runs on concrete.

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Merkaba "He's so Natty!" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sc Posts: 385	I used to get them when I ran alot. They kinda just went away. I would ice them a bit and started doing shin exercises. I never get them anymore.

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Karolina Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: usa Posts: 44	I get shin splints too and here's what I've noticed: I get them when I run on the treadmill Don't get them as badly when running outside (asphalt or track) If I run much farther or faster than I'm used to I tend to get shin splints They're worse if my shoes aren't tied correctly It's always much worse on my weaker leg

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oneovercabin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 82 Blog Entries: 2	It's really about shoes and form IMO. Make sure your shoes are tight enough and that you replace them often enough.

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Hoglander Cleaner Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 1,159 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 10	I really wish you didn't bring Jujitsu into this. My daughter is training in it. I've been for many years. Currently she is covered with bruising from it she relishes her earned pain. She's proud of the pain and abuse. It makes her stronger and better. Bottom line is work through the injury quietly, IMHO.