What day would you do pullovers?

Destram · 07-03-2002, 05:23 PM

Which muscle group do pullovers mainly target? Should they be done on a chest day or back or what?

LAM · 07-03-2002, 05:25 PM

they are a stretch-muscle movement for the Latissimus Dorsi...they go on back day

Destram · 07-03-2002, 05:26 PM

Thanks

Neil · 07-04-2002, 12:41 AM

I don't do them but I've heard a lot of people say they like to do them on chest day.

Claudette · 07-04-2002, 01:28 AM

I always did them on chest day, but then I read in Oxygen or M&F Hers that one fitness competitor does it on back day, which got me confused so I stopped doing them! I loved them on chest day, though.

Sub-Zero · 07-04-2002, 05:06 AM

Depends HOW you do them.

For me, Close Grip or a Dumbell Pullover works my chest

Whereas a medium grip workss my lats

Scotty the Body · 07-04-2002, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sub-Zero
Depends HOW you do them.

For me, Close Grip or a Dumbell Pullover works my chest

Whereas a medium grip workss my lats

Thats right, using a bb will hit the lats while using a DB will hit the chest. (hand placement)

**Prince** · 07-04-2002, 09:49 AM

I do not do pull-overs.

Robboe · 07-04-2002, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scotty the Body

Thats right, using a bb will hit the lats while using a DB will hit the chest. (hand placement)

Not quite, Scott.

Your using your lats mostly no matter what grip you use (providing it's still in the region of a "pullover" and not some sort of twisted mutant sister exercise).

The grip just decides how much of another muscle will be recruited.

It's still a back exercise at the end of the day and should be on back day.

Pulldowns use the chest too, but you're not gonna do pulldowns on chest day (unless you do chest and back on the same day of course).

Claudette · 07-04-2002, 03:10 PM

The pictures showing the primary muscle groups worked while doing a particular exercise, in this case a pullover, show that it is primarily working the chest--and nothing about the back. Still lost...

**Mudge** · 07-04-2002, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil
I don't do them but I've heard a lot of people say they like to do them on chest day.

Supposedly it can expand your rib cage, although once your cartillage is done fusing together (your done growing), it wont grow as much. Same with ultra-wide grip deadlifts, another item to stretch the body out.

Scotty the Body · 07-04-2002, 04:31 PM

TCD, just for the record, I don't do pullovers but here's what i'm talking about, I got this info from the same site, should be right but who knows.

Dumbbell Pullover

Target muscle - Pectoralis Major, Sternal

Barbell Pullover

Target muscle - Latissimus Dorsi

LAM · 07-04-2002, 04:57 PM

it's the exact same movement w/ the exception of different hand spacing...in #1 even if you relax the lats they still assit the chest to move the weight

pullovers expanding rib cage is all theroy no proof, more bogus info from Arnold's Encyclopedia...no exercise performed by an adult can cause changes in the human skeleton...

**Mudge** · 07-04-2002, 11:27 PM

LAM, many powerlifters have rib cages that bodybuilders often dont (when viewed from the side), I dont imagine this is all genetics. Explanation or ideas on this one?

LAM · 07-05-2002, 12:33 AM

to be honest I've never really paid much to PL'ers, even when I was competing. I have never really looked at the pics or mags of them...

**Mudge** · 07-05-2002, 01:12 AM

One of thier jokes is that most BBrs dissapear when they turn sideways.

BPB · 07-05-2002, 01:17 AM

I've seen the same basic movement listed as a chest and back workout. Personally, I don't see it as a chest exercise. It's just like a standing cable pullovers which is a back exercise.

TJohn · 07-05-2002, 06:12 AM

Aren't they also good for the seratus mucsles around the rib cage ?? I love the stretch I get from them.

TJohn

**Mudge** · 07-05-2002, 08:33 AM

TJohn, I'll say yes, because I noticed improvement in those when I used to do them with a dumbell.

Robboe · 07-05-2002, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAM
no exercise performed by an adult can cause changes in the human skeleton...

Yes. Although heavy training in general aids in increasing bone density.

Scotty, the chest is just an assisting muscle in both types of exercise. The primary muscle used are the lats. The site is fucked.

**Prince** · 07-05-2002, 10:12 AM

I agree, lats is the primary mover in a pull-over if done correctly. I do not agree that "the site is fucked" though, it has some very good animated pics.

Robboe · 07-05-2002, 10:21 AM

It has good pics?

It must be great then.

Flex has good pics and we know how great that is.

Robboe · 07-05-2002, 10:22 AM

BTW i dunno what site it is, nor have i been there so i really have no say.

I was just being a sarcastic fucker.

**Prince** · 07-05-2002, 10:26 AM

this is the site >> www.exrx.net/Exercise.html

it has some good info.

Scotty the Body · 07-05-2002, 10:35 AM

**Prince** · 07-05-2002, 10:38 AM

stop laughing Scotty!

it's not funny.

Scotty the Body · 07-05-2002, 07:36 PM

hehehe, can't help it, the "sarcastic fucker" always gives me a good laugh.

07-03-2002, 05:25 PM	#2
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	they are a stretch-muscle movement for the Latissimus Dorsi...they go on back day
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07-04-2002, 05:06 AM	#6
Sub-Zero Master of ICE Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Underworld Posts: 181	Depends HOW you do them. For me, Close Grip or a Dumbell Pullover works my chest Whereas a medium grip workss my lats
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07-04-2002, 09:49 AM	#8
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,753 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	I do not do pull-overs.
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07-04-2002, 04:31 PM	#12
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	TCD, just for the record, I don't do pullovers but here's what i'm talking about, I got this info from the same site, should be right but who knows. Dumbbell Pullover Target muscle - Pectoralis Major, Sternal Barbell Pullover Target muscle - Latissimus Dorsi
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07-04-2002, 04:57 PM	#13
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	it's the exact same movement w/ the exception of different hand spacing...in #1 even if you relax the lats they still assit the chest to move the weight pullovers expanding rib cage is all theroy no proof, more bogus info from Arnold's Encyclopedia...no exercise performed by an adult can cause changes in the human skeleton...
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

07-03-2002, 05:23 PM	#1
Destram Cat Lover Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: .... Posts: 70	What day would you do pullovers? Which muscle group do pullovers mainly target? Should they be done on a chest day or back or what?

07-03-2002, 05:26 PM	#3
Destram Cat Lover Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: .... Posts: 70	Thanks

07-04-2002, 12:41 AM	#4
Neil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 171	I don't do them but I've heard a lot of people say they like to do them on chest day.

07-04-2002, 01:28 AM	#5
Claudette Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	I always did them on chest day, but then I read in Oxygen or M&F Hers that one fitness competitor does it on back day, which got me confused so I stopped doing them! I loved them on chest day, though.

07-04-2002, 03:10 PM	#10
Claudette Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	The pictures showing the primary muscle groups worked while doing a particular exercise, in this case a pullover, show that it is primarily working the chest--and nothing about the back. Still lost...

07-04-2002, 11:27 PM	#14
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	LAM, many powerlifters have rib cages that bodybuilders often dont (when viewed from the side), I dont imagine this is all genetics. Explanation or ideas on this one?
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07-05-2002, 12:33 AM	#15
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	to be honest I've never really paid much to PL'ers, even when I was competing. I have never really looked at the pics or mags of them...
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

07-05-2002, 01:12 AM	#16
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	One of thier jokes is that most BBrs dissapear when they turn sideways.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

07-05-2002, 01:17 AM	#17
BPB Must be HUGE!!! Join Date: May 2002 Location: East Coast Posts: 43	I've seen the same basic movement listed as a chest and back workout. Personally, I don't see it as a chest exercise. It's just like a standing cable pullovers which is a back exercise.
	Must be HUGE!!...and cut

07-05-2002, 06:12 AM	#18
TJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 445	Aren't they also good for the seratus mucsles around the rib cage ?? I love the stretch I get from them. TJohn

07-05-2002, 08:33 AM	#19
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	TJohn, I'll say yes, because I noticed improvement in those when I used to do them with a dumbell.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

07-05-2002, 10:12 AM	#21
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,753 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	I agree, lats is the primary mover in a pull-over if done correctly. I do not agree that "the site is fucked" though, it has some very good animated pics.
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07-05-2002, 10:21 AM	#22
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	It has good pics? It must be great then. Flex has good pics and we know how great that is.
	Being held down by The Man

07-05-2002, 10:22 AM	#23
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	BTW i dunno what site it is, nor have i been there so i really have no say. I was just being a sarcastic fucker.
	Being held down by The Man

07-05-2002, 10:26 AM	#24
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,753 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	this is the site >> www.exrx.net/Exercise.html it has some good info.
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07-05-2002, 10:35 AM	#25
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	lol
	Cool

07-05-2002, 10:38 AM	#26
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,753 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	stop laughing Scotty! it's not funny.
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07-05-2002, 07:36 PM	#27
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	hehehe, can't help it, the "sarcastic fucker" always gives me a good laugh.
	Cool

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