strong abs= strong body

GoLdeN M 07 · 03-03-2008, 02:58 PM

Just curious but is it true that having strong abs makes overall a stronger body or am i the only person who believes that?

And if it is true can someone explain to me how. like is it nerves or something? Ive knows that a strong core makes a strong body for a while now i just never knew how. Is it only if you breath when doing work and thats it?

**Gazhole** · 03-03-2008, 05:22 PM

A strong core means you have strong core stability...

Witchblade · 03-03-2008, 05:25 PM

Your statement is mainly true in sports, where maximum force output is often limited by (core) stability.

Generally though, one muscle (group) doesn't mean jack shit as far as overall fitness is concerned.

GoLdeN M 07 · 03-03-2008, 05:26 PM

Are you sure because Pavel and all his books and articles reveal that a strong midsection allows you to better and harder tense any muscle in the body, making a stronger body.

For example with strong abs and obliques your punching power will skyrocket. Benching is not gonna do you much or any good.

Witchblade · 03-03-2008, 05:36 PM

Great rotary strength will naturally aid your punching power, but it's not going to help your grip strength or your calves. I think you're generalizing Pavel's statements.

iMan323 · 03-03-2008, 05:45 PM

I just played soccer and my abs are feeling more pounded then my legs. Working on my abs definately helps me be a faster/more mobile soccer player because I have to quickly shift the position of my upper body when I'm changing direction/exploding into space.

**Gazhole** · 03-03-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

Are you sure because Pavel and all his books and articles reveal that a strong midsection allows you to better and harder tense any muscle in the body, making a stronger body.

For example with strong abs and obliques your punching power will skyrocket. Benching is not gonna do you much or any good.

If you did nothing but core work do you think your bench would improve?

No.

Core is important yes and is often neglected, but for overall athletic development you need to train OVERALL.

Body122506 · 03-07-2008, 08:51 PM

In my opinion, strong abs help with posture and stability. I play a lot of basketball when I was younger and having abs definitely help with speed and agility.

My two cents.

Hoglander · 03-07-2008, 10:17 PM

I'd say lifting works my core just fine that plus any other training or straining .......it could be playing soccer, having sex, lifting, taking a turd. I don't feel the need to add much more "core work." It's all core work to one degree or another. I isolate it(a little) but many people seem fixated on it like it's some great fad. I think it gets silly at a certain point, this thread for example.

IMHO

GoLdeN M 07 · 03-08-2008, 08:08 AM

im saying to actually work more core in isolation, if anything i would test my core strength with intense exercises like dragonflags and full body wheelouts with the ab wheel. I just wanted to know if it as true that having a strong core will increase the tension of any other muscle on the body because that was what i heard and read about.

Metallibanger · 03-08-2008, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

im saying to actually work more core in isolation, if anything i would test my core strength with intense exercises like dragonflags and full body wheelouts with the ab wheel. I just wanted to know if it as true that having a strong core will increase the tension of any other muscle on the body because that was what i heard and read about.

In one word: 氣

Chi (vital force) comes from the waist, which is connected to the entire body

soxmuscle · 03-08-2008, 04:13 PM

Core is important, but core doesn't make (or break) an athlete IMO.

Reminds me of that Domino's commercial.

CORUM · 03-08-2008, 05:06 PM

i dont know about punching power going up from strong abs? look at tank abbott, chuck liddel..... they have guts but hit extremely hard. punching power is mostly from explosive strength, and the legs. (people who throw correct punches) but i am sure it wouldn't hurt a few punches, like the hook that uses alot of twisting. i think the abs help with the back and posture and for some reason women love the abs. i have to go watch this movie coming out "never back down" because my wife thinks they have nice abs!!! go figure!!

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GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 527	strong abs= strong body BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Just curious but is it true that having strong abs makes overall a stronger body or am i the only person who believes that? And if it is true can someone explain to me how. like is it nerves or something? Ive knows that a strong core makes a strong body for a while now i just never knew how. Is it only if you breath when doing work and thats it?

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Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 3,931	Your statement is mainly true in sports, where maximum force output is often limited by (core) stability. Generally though, one muscle (group) doesn't mean jack shit as far as overall fitness is concerned.
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Witchblade Succinct Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 3,931	Great rotary strength will naturally aid your punching power, but it's not going to help your grip strength or your calves. I think you're generalizing Pavel's statements.
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03-03-2008, 05:26 PM	#4
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 527	Are you sure because Pavel and all his books and articles reveal that a strong midsection allows you to better and harder tense any muscle in the body, making a stronger body. For example with strong abs and obliques your punching power will skyrocket. Benching is not gonna do you much or any good.

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iMan323 Preved Medved! Elite Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 947	I just played soccer and my abs are feeling more pounded then my legs. Working on my abs definately helps me be a faster/more mobile soccer player because I have to quickly shift the position of my upper body when I'm changing direction/exploding into space.

03-07-2008, 10:17 PM	#9
Hoglander Cleaner Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 912 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 10	I'd say lifting works my core just fine that plus any other training or straining .......it could be playing soccer, having sex, lifting, taking a turd. I don't feel the need to add much more "core work." It's all core work to one degree or another. I isolate it(a little) but many people seem fixated on it like it's some great fad. I think it gets silly at a certain point, this thread for example. IMHO

03-08-2008, 08:08 AM	#10
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 527	im saying to actually work more core in isolation, if anything i would test my core strength with intense exercises like dragonflags and full body wheelouts with the ab wheel. I just wanted to know if it as true that having a strong core will increase the tension of any other muscle on the body because that was what i heard and read about.

03-08-2008, 05:06 PM	#13
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 204	i dont know about punching power going up from strong abs? look at tank abbott, chuck liddel..... they have guts but hit extremely hard. punching power is mostly from explosive strength, and the legs. (people who throw correct punches) but i am sure it wouldn't hurt a few punches, like the hook that uses alot of twisting. i think the abs help with the back and posture and for some reason women love the abs. i have to go watch this movie coming out "never back down" because my wife thinks they have nice abs!!! go figure!!

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