I think i FOCKED up my shoulder!

Vale Tudo · 07-04-2002, 09:04 PM

I am not sure when or where I messed this thjing up but on my left felt on the front it hurts like a bitch. It is a dull nagging, almost like a strain. But I can no longer do and fluy exercises becasue the pain will not allow it, and my shoulder pressing as well a lat raises cause a l9ot of pain also. I am hoping this is not my rotator cuff, but does anyone have any idea or experience or advice? It is on the front of my shoulder where it hurts, and when I try to do an arm circle backwards about 3/4 of the way around it is a lot of pain. Someone please help me out here!!1 thanks everyone!!

KataMaStEr · 07-04-2002, 11:02 PM

If I where you I would get that shoulder x-rayed to have an idea what up with it. And don’t try to do anything that will make it hurt give it some rest. I dislocated my right arm once did not really went to the doc but I knew it was dislocated, every time I mover my arm up and down I would fell the movement of the bone or whatever that was messed up on there, shiat it hurts just thinking about it. Gave it some rest, I was back in business in about 3 weeks.

**Prince** · 07-04-2002, 11:51 PM

sounds like it could be rotator cuff...I f-d mine up awhile back.

Mifody · 07-05-2002, 01:59 AM

i think i messed mine up on sunday doing bench. its always had a bit of a prob but nothing that prevented me from doing anything. tried shoulders today.. no go

would an xray see a rotar cuff problem?
i'm also in the 6th week of my first cycle ARRGG! i dont know if i should stop the cycle, or just do exercises that dont affect it or what.. any suggestions?

Vale Tudo · 07-05-2002, 07:55 AM

hewy Prince what did you have to do to get back to normal shape?

**I Are Baboon** · 07-05-2002, 08:02 AM

Vale, it would not hurt to get it checked out. I've had minor problems with both shoulders in the past. Sounds like you are having the same problem I did....a dull, nagging pain in the joint that really hurts when you work the shoulder. In my case, it took a good year for the pain to be completely gone. Some days it felt fine, other days I'd wake up in the morning in serious pain. The doc will probably tell you the same thing he told me: Stop working out for six weeks (I did not listen to him). This all happend like five years ago. Both my shoulders are 100% now.

Good luck, man.

Vale Tudo · 07-05-2002, 08:05 AM

how long did you take off when it was hurting you, since I only work my shoulders once a week, taking off a week seems like an awful lot!

ponyboy · 07-05-2002, 08:15 AM

I have had both rotator cuffs injured before and it is not fun, and what you are describing sounds like that problem. Put your elbow to your side bent 90 degrees (like halfway through a bicep curl) and rotate your hand towards your belly button and then the opposite direction, keeping your elbow at your side. If you feel pain, then it is definitely your rotator cuff. It also sounds like it might be a subluxation of your glenohumeral joint (your shoulder socket). Instead of a doctor, I'd see an athletic therapist ASAP. Doctors in my experience don't know much about those types of injuries because they can't just prescribe a pill to make it feel better.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-05-2002, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Vale Tudo
how long did you take off when it was hurting you, since I only work my shoulders once a week, taking off a week seems like an awful lot!

I took a couple weeks off and was back at it. I couldn't stand NOT working out. But it hurt like hell when I worked it. That was very stupid of me to work a sore joint, but I was new to working out and was just starting to see gains, so I refused to stop working.

Vale Tudo · 07-05-2002, 08:37 AM

did you only stop hitting the shoulders or did you stop everthing?

**I Are Baboon** · 07-05-2002, 08:46 AM

For those two weeks? I stopped everything. When I started up again, I didn't skip a thing and worked through the pain. (again, a dumb thing to do).

Vale Tudo · 07-05-2002, 08:49 AM

yeah, damn man this sucks....Thanks for all your help though IAB i apperciate it

**gopro** · 07-05-2002, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vale Tudo
I am not sure when or where I messed this thjing up but on my left felt on the front it hurts like a bitch. It is a dull nagging, almost like a strain. But I can no longer do and fluy exercises becasue the pain will not allow it, and my shoulder pressing as well a lat raises cause a l9ot of pain also. I am hoping this is not my rotator cuff, but does anyone have any idea or experience or advice? It is on the front of my shoulder where it hurts, and when I try to do an arm circle backwards about 3/4 of the way around it is a lot of pain. Someone please help me out here!!1 thanks everyone!!

This may not be rotator cuff, but a bicep tendon strain. This is common. I hope you iced it for a day and then started applying heat while taking Advil.

DO NOT do ANY exercise that hurts, but you can train around it. Getting some blood around there will help it heal. If it still hurts after a week, get it checked...then it may be a rotator problem.

Vale Tudo · 07-05-2002, 09:02 AM

Ok here is my dumbass situation...I did NOT ice it or heat it (yeah i know that is the dumbass part) and by a week almost exactly, it was feeling better but then shoulders came up again (yet another dumbass part) and I worked them hard as usual and not it hurts the same if not a little worse than before. So i am thinking about resting it for the next week or so and see what happens. The only problem is that I am in the highest point of that 1-AD cycle and dont want to miss out on any of the benefits that i can gain....damn, but I guess I have to rest it.

**gopro** · 07-05-2002, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vale Tudo
Ok here is my dumbass situation...I did NOT ice it or heat it (yeah i know that is the dumbass part) and by a week almost exactly, it was feeling better but then shoulders came up again (yet another dumbass part) and I worked them hard as usual and not it hurts the same if not a little worse than before. So i am thinking about resting it for the next week or so and see what happens. The only problem is that I am in the highest point of that 1-AD cycle and dont want to miss out on any of the benefits that i can gain....damn, but I guess I have to rest it.

Well, yes, you made a couple of mistakes there. However, you should continue the 1-AD and try to work around the injury as best as you can. Avoid exercises that exaserbate the injury, and use lighter weights where you must. Ice the shoulder after each workout for about 15 minutes. Then, see how you are after another week.

**Prince** · 07-05-2002, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vale Tudo
hewy Prince what did you have to do to get back to normal shape?

First off, I am no doctor or physical therapist, so, I do not know what is wrong with your shoulder. gopro could be right, it may be a bicep strain, I have done that too!

However, seeing as you said it hurts when you rotate your arm backwards makes me think it's rotator cuff.

Basically, I stopped doing any exercise that bothered my shoulders. To this day I do not do any shoulder presses. I focused on warming my shoulders up thoroughly before any upper body work-outs, if I felt any discomfort I stopped doing that exercise. I now use more of a HIT approach to working shoulders, using upright rows and dumbbell laterals.

Vale Tudo · 07-05-2002, 11:46 AM

Pony, i what you described before, and I feel no pain in my shoulder. It is more of a pain likw when you are doing heavy DB flys, you know the strain you get on your shoulders on the negative of the exercise? Well that is exactly where it hurts. If i take my left palm and put it on my left hip and push, i feel this pain. That is really the only time. I just got done icing it and putting icy/hot on it and it is feeling a little bit better.

**gopro** · 07-05-2002, 11:14 PM

I'm betting its a strained bicep tendon...right where it attatches up by the delt. This is common, and can be felt primarily when you stretch your arm back, like the negative of a flye.

bigss75 · 07-09-2002, 02:56 AM

Boy I wish I saw this tread sooner I dislocated my sholder a year ago and so a couple weeks ago I start felling this pain in my shoulder after lifting and throwing the baseball so I had to get an MRI and they found my bone in my shoulder was rubbing up on my tendons so now I have to get that filed down. It sucks I will be out for 4 to 6 weeks. The only thing that makes me laugh is the doctor said it was the first time he saw someone this young need this operation. He said the youngest person he ever did it on was a 35 year old housewife.

07-04-2002, 09:04 PM	#1
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	I think i FOCKED up my shoulder! I am not sure when or where I messed this thjing up but on my left felt on the front it hurts like a bitch. It is a dull nagging, almost like a strain. But I can no longer do and fluy exercises becasue the pain will not allow it, and my shoulder pressing as well a lat raises cause a l9ot of pain also. I am hoping this is not my rotator cuff, but does anyone have any idea or experience or advice? It is on the front of my shoulder where it hurts, and when I try to do an arm circle backwards about 3/4 of the way around it is a lot of pain. Someone please help me out here!!1 thanks everyone!!

07-04-2002, 11:51 PM	#3
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,992 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	sounds like it could be rotator cuff...I f-d mine up awhile back.
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07-05-2002, 08:15 AM	#8
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	I have had both rotator cuffs injured before and it is not fun, and what you are describing sounds like that problem. Put your elbow to your side bent 90 degrees (like halfway through a bicep curl) and rotate your hand towards your belly button and then the opposite direction, keeping your elbow at your side. If you feel pain, then it is definitely your rotator cuff. It also sounds like it might be a subluxation of your glenohumeral joint (your shoulder socket). Instead of a doctor, I'd see an athletic therapist ASAP. Doctors in my experience don't know much about those types of injuries because they can't just prescribe a pill to make it feel better.
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07-05-2002, 11:14 PM	#18
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07-04-2002, 11:02 PM	#2
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	If I where you I would get that shoulder x-rayed to have an idea what up with it. And don’t try to do anything that will make it hurt give it some rest. I dislocated my right arm once did not really went to the doc but I knew it was dislocated, every time I mover my arm up and down I would fell the movement of the bone or whatever that was messed up on there, shiat it hurts just thinking about it. Gave it some rest, I was back in business in about 3 weeks.

07-05-2002, 01:59 AM	#4
Mifody Member Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: . Posts: 175	i think i messed mine up on sunday doing bench. its always had a bit of a prob but nothing that prevented me from doing anything. tried shoulders today.. no go would an xray see a rotar cuff problem? i'm also in the 6th week of my first cycle ARRGG! i dont know if i should stop the cycle, or just do exercises that dont affect it or what.. any suggestions?

07-05-2002, 07:55 AM	#5
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	hewy Prince what did you have to do to get back to normal shape?

07-05-2002, 08:02 AM	#6
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,002 Photos: 10	Vale, it would not hurt to get it checked out. I've had minor problems with both shoulders in the past. Sounds like you are having the same problem I did....a dull, nagging pain in the joint that really hurts when you work the shoulder. In my case, it took a good year for the pain to be completely gone. Some days it felt fine, other days I'd wake up in the morning in serious pain. The doc will probably tell you the same thing he told me: Stop working out for six weeks (I did not listen to him). This all happend like five years ago. Both my shoulders are 100% now. Good luck, man.

07-05-2002, 08:05 AM	#7
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	how long did you take off when it was hurting you, since I only work my shoulders once a week, taking off a week seems like an awful lot!

07-05-2002, 08:37 AM	#10
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	did you only stop hitting the shoulders or did you stop everthing?

07-05-2002, 08:46 AM	#11
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,002 Photos: 10	For those two weeks? I stopped everything. When I started up again, I didn't skip a thing and worked through the pain. (again, a dumb thing to do).

07-05-2002, 08:49 AM	#12
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	yeah, damn man this sucks....Thanks for all your help though IAB i apperciate it

07-05-2002, 09:02 AM	#14
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	Ok here is my dumbass situation...I did NOT ice it or heat it (yeah i know that is the dumbass part) and by a week almost exactly, it was feeling better but then shoulders came up again (yet another dumbass part) and I worked them hard as usual and not it hurts the same if not a little worse than before. So i am thinking about resting it for the next week or so and see what happens. The only problem is that I am in the highest point of that 1-AD cycle and dont want to miss out on any of the benefits that i can gain....damn, but I guess I have to rest it.

07-05-2002, 11:46 AM	#17
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	Pony, i what you described before, and I feel no pain in my shoulder. It is more of a pain likw when you are doing heavy DB flys, you know the strain you get on your shoulders on the negative of the exercise? Well that is exactly where it hurts. If i take my left palm and put it on my left hip and push, i feel this pain. That is really the only time. I just got done icing it and putting icy/hot on it and it is feeling a little bit better.

07-09-2002, 02:56 AM	#19
bigss75 Let Me See Yo Grill Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,123	Boy I wish I saw this tread sooner I dislocated my sholder a year ago and so a couple weeks ago I start felling this pain in my shoulder after lifting and throwing the baseball so I had to get an MRI and they found my bone in my shoulder was rubbing up on my tendons so now I have to get that filed down. It sucks I will be out for 4 to 6 weeks. The only thing that makes me laugh is the doctor said it was the first time he saw someone this young need this operation. He said the youngest person he ever did it on was a 35 year old housewife.

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