Bulking and Reducking Fat

RMN · 03-21-2008, 11:06 AM

Well friends my first post here.Hello
its been almost a year since ive worked out and right now ive got a belly and fat around my butt.
basically im a skinny guy but for some time ive been away from sports and activity and hence this situation.
i have a decent bulking program.and since i am skinny i would like to get bulked up but my question is can i burn my fat along?i don't mean A LOT of fat but you know get rid of my extra fat around my belly and back?(my pants don't fit anymore

)
and can i does sports and running affect the bulking program?

thank you

Irons77 · 03-21-2008, 11:19 AM

You can't bulk and cut at the same time. One or the other bro! Running will not hurt if you are eating the extra calorie for it. Cardio is good for you while bulking. Don't over do it

Irons77 · 03-21-2008, 11:20 AM

Welcome to IM

RMN · 03-21-2008, 11:40 AM

thanks for the welcome.

RMN · 03-24-2008, 10:38 AM

so i wont loose that extra fat on my body while im bulking even if i workout and play sports?
and should i loose that extra fat and then bulk?

Irons77 · 03-24-2008, 12:10 PM

It is all up to you. In order to bulk you have to an increase in calories above your maintence intake which means the amount of calories you eat to maintain your current weight. To cut you have to eat less than your maintence intake.

danzik17 · 03-24-2008, 01:52 PM

You won't lose the fat, but you can lower your BF %. Think of it this way: there are two ways to reduce BF%. One is to lose fat, the other is to add lean mass without additional fat. Either one will reduce your BF percentage.

RMN · 03-24-2008, 11:11 PM

ok this is what i have decided.
I HAVE to loose that extra fat because like i said earlier im having a really tough time with clothing.
I know while bulking you gain fat(i have Bulked) but this is just pure fat conc on certain areas.
So im going to reduce my intake and workout and engage in sports and once i have reduced my fat ill start proper bulking.
now my Q is.in his process will i gain some muscle or at least shape them?

thank you

danzik17 · 03-24-2008, 11:40 PM

Sure you'll shape them - that's what losing fat does. It exposes more of the shape of the muscle underneath. There is no such thing as "toning" a muscle.

As a general answer, no you won't gain mass while on a cut. It's not physiologically possible to do that in a calorie deficit.

RMN · 03-25-2008, 01:25 AM

thanks,
few more Q's
like i said its been a year since i worked out so how shall i resume?i mean i should start with light weight right?and how long?
and this what im going to do
Day 1: Chest/Triceps

Day 2: Legs/calves

Day 3: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 4: Back/Biceps/forearms

Day 5: OFF or cardio/abs

Day 6: Shoulders/traps

Day 7: OFF or cardio/abs
ill do 3 types for each part 3x6-8
and ill alter my routines and type every 2 weeks.can i follow this same routine while BULKING too?

tq

Elson · 03-25-2008, 08:19 AM

i noticed your from India. nice to see another Indian here

.
I think your confused about the whole reducing fat thing. To reduce fat you need less calories in then you put out. If you want to loose fat, scrap the whole weight lifting plan and stick to the sports. Working out while in deficit will actually cause muscle loss. So reduce you calories through diet and exercise (sports) and then once your down to a fat amount your good with, then start to hit the gym to bulk. Basically... don't workout while in deficit.

Irons77 · 03-25-2008, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elson

i noticed your from India. nice to see another Indian here

.
I think your confused about the whole reducing fat thing. To reduce fat you need less calories in then you put out. If you want to loose fat, scrap the whole weight lifting plan and stick to the sports. Working out while in deficit will actually cause muscle loss. So reduce you calories through diet and exercise (sports) and then once your down to a fat amount your good with, then start to hit the gym to bulk. Basically... don't workout while in deficit.

WHAT???? If he doesn't work out on a cut he will lose what he has. You are in a deficit, your body will break down the muscle for fuel if not used. Keep working out, your program looks good. Good luck

RMN · 03-25-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons77

WHAT???? If he doesn't work out on a cut he will lose what he has. You are in a deficit, your body will break down the muscle for fuel if not used. Keep working out, your program looks good. Good luck

doesn't the FAT break down before that?

and let me make this simple....
im a fat boy

...and i want to reduce
what do i do?any links for the diet?
the term CUTTING would be inappropriate since have not BULKED.

thankyou

oneovercabin · 03-27-2008, 07:28 PM

Start with some general cardio, HIIT, bodyweight exercises (stick with pushups, pullups, dips, etc.), and really take care of your diet. After you've established that solid base by doing the bodyweight exercises you'll probably be ready to start bulking and think about a split routine.

03-21-2008, 11:06 AM	#1
RMN Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cochin,India Posts: 6	Bulking and Reducking Fat Well friends my first post here.Hello its been almost a year since ive worked out and right now ive got a belly and fat around my butt. basically im a skinny guy but for some time ive been away from sports and activity and hence this situation. i have a decent bulking program.and since i am skinny i would like to get bulked up but my question is can i burn my fat along?i don't mean A LOT of fat but you know get rid of my extra fat around my belly and back?(my pants don't fit anymore ) and can i does sports and running affect the bulking program? thank you

03-21-2008, 11:19 AM	#2
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 824	You can't bulk and cut at the same time. One or the other bro! Running will not hurt if you are eating the extra calorie for it. Cardio is good for you while bulking. Don't over do it
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-21-2008, 11:20 AM	#3
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 824	Welcome to IM
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-24-2008, 12:10 PM	#6
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 824	It is all up to you. In order to bulk you have to an increase in calories above your maintence intake which means the amount of calories you eat to maintain your current weight. To cut you have to eat less than your maintence intake.
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-24-2008, 01:52 PM	#7
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,127 Blog Entries: 5	You won't lose the fat, but you can lower your BF %. Think of it this way: there are two ways to reduce BF%. One is to lose fat, the other is to add lean mass without additional fat. Either one will reduce your BF percentage.
	Ron Paul 2012 Journal: Boom goes the dynamite

03-21-2008, 11:40 AM	#4
RMN Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cochin,India Posts: 6	thanks for the welcome.

03-24-2008, 10:38 AM	#5
RMN Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cochin,India Posts: 6	so i wont loose that extra fat on my body while im bulking even if i workout and play sports? and should i loose that extra fat and then bulk?

03-24-2008, 11:11 PM	#8
RMN Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cochin,India Posts: 6	ok this is what i have decided. I HAVE to loose that extra fat because like i said earlier im having a really tough time with clothing. I know while bulking you gain fat(i have Bulked) but this is just pure fat conc on certain areas. So im going to reduce my intake and workout and engage in sports and once i have reduced my fat ill start proper bulking. now my Q is.in his process will i gain some muscle or at least shape them? thank you

03-24-2008, 11:40 PM	#9
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,127 Blog Entries: 5	Sure you'll shape them - that's what losing fat does. It exposes more of the shape of the muscle underneath. There is no such thing as "toning" a muscle. As a general answer, no you won't gain mass while on a cut. It's not physiologically possible to do that in a calorie deficit.
	Ron Paul 2012 Journal: Boom goes the dynamite

03-25-2008, 01:25 AM	#10
RMN Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cochin,India Posts: 6	thanks, few more Q's like i said its been a year since i worked out so how shall i resume?i mean i should start with light weight right?and how long? and this what im going to do Day 1: Chest/Triceps Day 2: Legs/calves Day 3: OFF or cardio/abs Day 4: Back/Biceps/forearms Day 5: OFF or cardio/abs Day 6: Shoulders/traps Day 7: OFF or cardio/abs ill do 3 types for each part 3x6-8 and ill alter my routines and type every 2 weeks.can i follow this same routine while BULKING too? tq

03-25-2008, 08:19 AM	#11
Elson blabbermouth Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 69	i noticed your from India. nice to see another Indian here . I think your confused about the whole reducing fat thing. To reduce fat you need less calories in then you put out. If you want to loose fat, scrap the whole weight lifting plan and stick to the sports. Working out while in deficit will actually cause muscle loss. So reduce you calories through diet and exercise (sports) and then once your down to a fat amount your good with, then start to hit the gym to bulk. Basically... don't workout while in deficit.
	Start: 130lbs Current:steady at 155lbs (04/27/08)

03-27-2008, 07:28 PM	#14
oneovercabin Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 82 Blog Entries: 2	Start with some general cardio, HIIT, bodyweight exercises (stick with pushups, pullups, dips, etc.), and really take care of your diet. After you've established that solid base by doing the bodyweight exercises you'll probably be ready to start bulking and think about a split routine.

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