Personal Trainers

Plateau_Max · 03-28-2008, 09:14 PM

I'm NCSA and NASM certified, and I have a nutritionist certification through Expert Rating.

My question is, being that I am in the Air Force and going to college part time: when I get out of the air force and am still going to college, what are job opportunities in the personal trainer world like for someone with certifications but no college degree (yet)?

Any non-degree holding personal trainers care to share?

**P-funk** · 03-28-2008, 09:16 PM

you don't need a college degree to be a trainer (unfortunately).

all you need is a certification. lucky for you, you have two of the most recognized and respected certifications and people will hire you based on the fact that you went and took the tests and past them (regardless of whether you know jack-shit about training people or not).

Plateau_Max · 03-28-2008, 09:22 PM

I would imagine the places you can get hired and the amount you get paid would differ greatly from a certified trainer compared to a degree holding (ex: C.S.C.S.) trainer.

I guess I just have this image in my head of working at some gym somewhere not making much money at all until I finish my degree.

Irons77 · 03-28-2008, 09:25 PM

Can you get anything in this field thru a junior college? Like nutritionist or something?

**P-funk** · 03-28-2008, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

I would imagine the places you can get hired and the amount you get paid would differ greatly from a certified trainer compared to a degree holding (ex: C.S.C.S.) trainer.

I guess I just have this image in my head of working at some gym somewhere not making much money at all until I finish my degree.

you have imagined wrong! lol

most chain gyms, it doesn't matter. you can have a fucking PhD...but they wont care..they just want you to be certified and they will pay you whatever everyone else gets.

**P-funk** · 03-28-2008, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons77

Can you get anything in this field thru a junior college? Like nutritionist or something?

Nutritionist is a vague term. In the US, anyone can call themselves a nutritionist (even with no degree). A nutritionist is simply a person who gives out nutritional advice. They can not, however, give out specific diets or treat pathologies as that is left up to Registered Dieticians (who are the only people that currently can hold the title "dietician").

To be a Registered Dietician, you must get a 4 year degree in Dietetics and then do a year internship and pass the Registered Dieticians licensing exam through the American Dietetic Association.

In a community college, there is usually a nutrition program where you take a nutrition class or two and some applied science courses (anatomy and phys., biology and chemistry) in preparation for a higher level degree in either nutritional science or dietetics. In community colleges, there is also typically some sort of exercise science based degree which allows you to take science based classes (anatomy and phys., bio, chem., nutritoin, etc) and helps you study towards some sort of certification (out here some community colleges go the NASM route and others go the ACSM route).

hope that helps.

Irons77 · 03-28-2008, 09:53 PM

Thanks P-Funk! At the age of 30 looking for something in this field of work. My uncle was a dietician. He was killed in a car wreck on Nov. 7 2007. He tried to get me into that field but I have my own thing going then and now. He was a natural bodybuilder, looked damn good to! I've been around it but 8 months ago got into lifting myself. Now this is what I want to do. I never felt this good in my life. Thanks for the directions bro

**P-funk** · 03-28-2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons77

Thanks P-Funk! At the age of 30 looking for something in this field of work. My uncle was a dietician. He was killed in a car wreck on Nov. 7 2007. He tried to get me into that field but I have my own thing going then and now. He was a natural bodybuilder, looked damn good to! I've been around it but 8 months ago got into lifting myself. Now this is what I want to do. I never felt this good in my life. Thanks for the directions bro

Well,

If you want to be an RD, I would say start taking courses at the community college to get the pre-req's out of the way so that you can jump right into the RD program at whatever university you choose (plus it is way cheaper to go to school at the community college than a state university or private college).

I would look into getting some sort of training certification if I were you and begin building up a business.

Irons77 · 03-28-2008, 10:21 PM

I'm going to look into that at U of Houston. Thanks P

You gonna help with my work? lol

**P-funk** · 03-28-2008, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons77

You gonna help with my work? lol

sure.

Irons77 · 03-28-2008, 11:07 PM

Thanks

Plateau_Max · 03-28-2008, 11:17 PM

I'm noticing there are quite a few positions on monster that are very well paying that want a 4 year degree (exercise science, physiology, etc).

Most of them are at health clubs and health spas. That would be the heat right there. The range is anywhere from $20 - $130 per hour. I guess I'd have to work on my solicitation skills

**P-funk** · 03-28-2008, 11:35 PM

what are the high(er) paying jobs you are looking at?

Plateau_Max · 03-29-2008, 12:00 AM

Personal Training is what I want to do, so it's not like I HAVE to have one that pays $125 per hour.

Most of the high paying ones have to do with how many people you are willing to train at once.

kaiserS · 05-14-2008, 12:04 PM

Hey Plat -
You've got an NASM and are from the airforce - trust me man, you're golden as a Personal Trainer -

I think you're thinking slightly the wrong way about this -

Personal Training isn't like any other profession - it's not judged by degrees and things like that - it's completely unregulated -

That lets a lot of losers get involved like P-funk said ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

you don't need a college degree to be a trainer (unfortunately).

... but it also allows those that are qualified and committed to jump right to the top of the industry - you see guys that have switched careers and got into Personal Training, earning well into six figures in about 5 years form opening training gyms or getting into training education -

Since this is my first post, I guess I'll talk a little bit about myself-

I'm just an "average" trainer per se - don't own a gym or a training studio - but I realized what people are looking for from a trainer and how to give them tremendous value in their sessions - I've been easily able to earn just barely of 100K for a few years no as a private trainer because of it -

The key is think of yourself as the product - how much do you want to put in - how do you want to be perceived - how much do you want to earn -

From your background I can tell you that you'll be more credible and marketable than 99% of trainers -

Look at the job at the healthclub as just a stepping stone - work there two months and then quit -

In the meantime, pick a specialty, make a nice website and some marketing materials, develop a style, and start doing some basic marketing -

You'll be able to take this thing very far - let me know if you need any other help -

**Merkaba** · 05-14-2008, 12:47 PM

around here all you need is insurance and cpr cred. Not a high paying job around here though unless you open your own place and/or train multiples. Or get in a high end location like I'm hoping.

tomuchgear · 05-14-2008, 01:09 PM

hey bro depends on your area. ballys will hire you with out any real knowledge. if you want one that pays better, and wants you to have knowledge of the field go to lifestyle. a place that pays well also is dynamic they are corporate.

**P-funk** · 05-14-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiserS

Hey Plat -
You've got an NASM and are from the airforce - trust me man, you're golden as a Personal Trainer -

I think you're thinking slightly the wrong way about this -

Personal Training isn't like any other profession - it's not judged by degrees and things like that - it's completely unregulated -

That lets a lot of losers get involved like P-funk said ...

... but it also allows those that are qualified and committed to jump right to the top of the industry - you see guys that have switched careers and got into Personal Training, earning well into six figures in about 5 years form opening training gyms or getting into training education -

Since this is my first post, I guess I'll talk a little bit about myself-

I'm just an "average" trainer per se - don't own a gym or a training studio - but I realized what people are looking for from a trainer and how to give them tremendous value in their sessions - I've been easily able to earn just barely of 100K for a few years no as a private trainer because of it -

The key is think of yourself as the product - how much do you want to put in - how do you want to be perceived - how much do you want to earn -

From your background I can tell you that you'll be more credible and marketable than 99% of trainers -

Look at the job at the healthclub as just a stepping stone - work there two months and then quit -

In the meantime, pick a specialty, make a nice website and some marketing materials, develop a style, and start doing some basic marketing -

You'll be able to take this thing very far - let me know if you need any other help -

agree

danny81 · 05-14-2008, 02:35 PM

how much do personel trainers make an hour?

**P-funk** · 05-14-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny81

how much do personel trainers make an hour?

depends on where you work, your skills, how your market yourself....all that stuff.

danny81 · 05-14-2008, 04:39 PM

oo how old do you have to be. and lets say the personel trainer is lie 100 an hour how much do they generally make an hour?

Doublebase · 05-14-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

depends on where you work, your skills, how your market yourself....all that stuff.

Why are you entertaining his questions?

danny81 · 05-14-2008, 04:55 PM

why r u on my dick now?

tomuchgear · 05-14-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny81

oo how old do you have to be. and lets say the personel trainer is lie 100 an hour how much do they generally make an hour?

what the hell are you asking? well age typicaly eighteen. depending on how many certifications you have can change your hourly rate. also depending on the quality of said certifications. if you are a good trainer in a good gym 35+ an hour. some places less. smaller gyms are typicaly base of 7.50 then like 15-25 per session.

tomuchgear · 05-14-2008, 04:59 PM

now if you are really good, and go out on your own you can make much difrent amounts. also if you go to a corporate thing you could make 65 or more a hour. that would typicaly mean you are training more than one person. that you have alot of expierience with fitness camps, things like that. to go corporate you need to know your shit.

danny81 · 05-14-2008, 05:08 PM

iight thanks bro.

Softballfan8 · 02-03-2009, 09:54 PM

I seen this place online and was just wondering if it is any count. It is called expertrating and you can get an online certificate from them. I was just wondering if it is good to get you a personal training job and what other kind of online certifications you can get that are good in landing you PT jobs. I don't have alot of time to go to school right now but if I could do something online and get a PT job I would be ok. Thank you

**Merkaba** · 02-03-2009, 11:20 PM

ok Softball, judging by your posts and your blog I'd say youre spamming. I hope you don't call this shit internet marketing! I know its all the latest rage, blog blog blog go to a forum....

Right now, you're on my DumbAss list!

03-28-2008, 09:14 PM	#1
Plateau_Max I enjoy SkyDiving Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 865	Personal Trainers I'm NCSA and NASM certified, and I have a nutritionist certification through Expert Rating. My question is, being that I am in the Air Force and going to college part time: when I get out of the air force and am still going to college, what are job opportunities in the personal trainer world like for someone with certifications but no college degree (yet)? Any non-degree holding personal trainers care to share? "Years of hard work for only a single moment of perfection is a worthy trade." - Myself

03-28-2008, 09:16 PM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,700	you don't need a college degree to be a trainer (unfortunately). all you need is a certification. lucky for you, you have two of the most recognized and respected certifications and people will hire you based on the fact that you went and took the tests and past them (regardless of whether you know jack-shit about training people or not). E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

03-28-2008, 09:22 PM	#3
Plateau_Max I enjoy SkyDiving Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 865	I would imagine the places you can get hired and the amount you get paid would differ greatly from a certified trainer compared to a degree holding (ex: C.S.C.S.) trainer. I guess I just have this image in my head of working at some gym somewhere not making much money at all until I finish my degree. "Years of hard work for only a single moment of perfection is a worthy trade." - Myself

03-28-2008, 09:25 PM	#4
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 914	Can you get anything in this field thru a junior college? Like nutritionist or something? Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-28-2008, 09:53 PM	#7
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 914	Thanks P-Funk! At the age of 30 looking for something in this field of work. My uncle was a dietician. He was killed in a car wreck on Nov. 7 2007. He tried to get me into that field but I have my own thing going then and now. He was a natural bodybuilder, looked damn good to! I've been around it but 8 months ago got into lifting myself. Now this is what I want to do. I never felt this good in my life. Thanks for the directions bro Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-28-2008, 10:21 PM	#9
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 914	I'm going to look into that at U of Houston. Thanks P You gonna help with my work? lol Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-28-2008, 11:07 PM	#11
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 914	Thanks Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-28-2008, 11:17 PM	#12
Plateau_Max I enjoy SkyDiving Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 865	I'm noticing there are quite a few positions on monster that are very well paying that want a 4 year degree (exercise science, physiology, etc). Most of them are at health clubs and health spas. That would be the heat right there. The range is anywhere from $20 - $130 per hour. I guess I'd have to work on my solicitation skills "Years of hard work for only a single moment of perfection is a worthy trade." - Myself

03-28-2008, 11:35 PM	#13
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,700	what are the high(er) paying jobs you are looking at? E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

03-29-2008, 12:00 AM	#14
Plateau_Max I enjoy SkyDiving Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 865	Personal Training is what I want to do, so it's not like I HAVE to have one that pays $125 per hour. Most of the high paying ones have to do with how many people you are willing to train at once. "Years of hard work for only a single moment of perfection is a worthy trade." - Myself

05-14-2008, 12:47 PM	#16
Merkaba "King of Cheat Meals" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sc Posts: 1,625	around here all you need is insurance and cpr cred. Not a high paying job around here though unless you open your own place and/or train multiples. Or get in a high end location like I'm hoping. Ban 2 1/2 's !!!!!! -------------------------------------------- Some Pics. All Natural

05-14-2008, 01:09 PM	#17
tomuchgear is gettin divorcd n drnkn Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,682 Photos: 5	hey bro depends on your area. ballys will hire you with out any real knowledge. if you want one that pays better, and wants you to have knowledge of the field go to lifestyle. a place that pays well also is dynamic they are corporate. i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflys. there is no damn justice in the world.

05-14-2008, 02:35 PM	#19
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,763	how much do personel trainers make an hour?

05-14-2008, 04:39 PM	#21
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,763	oo how old do you have to be. and lets say the personel trainer is lie 100 an hour how much do they generally make an hour?

05-14-2008, 04:55 PM	#23
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,763	why r u on my dick now?

05-14-2008, 04:59 PM	#25
tomuchgear is gettin divorcd n drnkn Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,682 Photos: 5	now if you are really good, and go out on your own you can make much difrent amounts. also if you go to a corporate thing you could make 65 or more a hour. that would typicaly mean you are training more than one person. that you have alot of expierience with fitness camps, things like that. to go corporate you need to know your shit. i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflys. there is no damn justice in the world.

05-14-2008, 05:08 PM	#26
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,763	iight thanks bro.

02-03-2009, 09:54 PM	#27
Softballfan8 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lexington NC Posts: 4	I seen this place online and was just wondering if it is any count. It is called expertrating and you can get an online certificate from them. I was just wondering if it is good to get you a personal training job and what other kind of online certifications you can get that are good in landing you PT jobs. I don't have alot of time to go to school right now but if I could do something online and get a PT job I would be ok. Thank you

02-03-2009, 11:20 PM	#28
Merkaba "King of Cheat Meals" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sc Posts: 1,625	ok Softball, judging by your posts and your blog I'd say youre spamming. I hope you don't call this shit internet marketing! I know its all the latest rage, blog blog blog go to a forum.... Right now, you're on my DumbAss list! Ban 2 1/2 's !!!!!! -------------------------------------------- Some Pics. All Natural

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