wtf... grip failing on..SIDEBENDS????

**DOMS** · 04-17-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by danny81

BS. all the great boxers trained them everyday. jack dempsey, rocky marciano, calzaghe, etc

Yeah, I bet you have their genes.

Who the fuck are you kidding? Not only are you going to lose, but you're going to lose so bad that you're going to wish the other boxer brought KY.

danny81 · 04-17-2008, 06:01 PM

aha ur funny i already won my first fight

kiko · 04-17-2008, 06:23 PM

Shadow boxing matches don't count.

**dg806** · 04-17-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by danny81

BS. all the great boxers trained them everyday. jack dempsey, rocky marciano, calzaghe, etc

That's because they didn't know any better.

danny81 · 04-17-2008, 06:41 PM

calzage ddnt no any better? hes stlll figitng today. mayweather does abs veryf often t and so does cotto

tomuchgear · 04-17-2008, 07:03 PM

thats cool i was not trieng to be a dick at all bro. i train abs three days a week with alot of variation allowing to maintain strength and build. to each his own if it works for you go for it.

danny81 · 04-17-2008, 07:23 PM

iight my bad just usualy popl try and diss shit i say. yah i guess 3x a week cud work to

**Gazhole** · 04-18-2008, 05:27 AM

I might be wrong but i think Calzaghe lived in my hometown for a while. I just find that cool :P

tomuchgear · 04-18-2008, 08:39 AM

when i was younger i trained abs every day to no avail. then i got older did a bit of research and tweaked my program. now i do variations on exercises to keep thing from getting stale and keep my abs strong. you should look into some of the ab stuff posted through out the forum. gaz, and witchblade have both posted some great stuff on ab development.

**IainDaniel** · 04-18-2008, 08:44 AM

You could jerk off more frequently.... Build up those callouses.

Gordo · 04-18-2008, 12:11 PM

Chalk up your hands for starters....keep at it and let the calluses set in. Your fingers will get used to the weight.

I still don't get the heavy sidebends though....wouldn't you be better off having someone slam you with a medicine ball?

Gordo · 04-18-2008, 12:12 PM

Or what Iain said

tomuchgear · 04-18-2008, 12:16 PM

side bends are cool and all but there are better exercises for obliques.

**CowPimp** · 04-18-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by danny81

BS. all the great boxers trained them everyday. jack dempsey, rocky marciano, calzaghe, etc

A lot of great fighters also didn't believe in training with weights because they thought it would "make them slow." Which we all know is completely false these days.

danny81 · 04-18-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

A lot of great fighters also didn't believe in training with weights because they thought it would "make them slow." Which we all know is completely false these days.

yah but doig bodyweight it very good to. calzaghe trains strictly bodyweight and so does aot of other fighters. and yowht should i do for obliques instead?

tomuchgear · 04-18-2008, 01:36 PM

as i suggested before look up what gaz, and witchblade have wrote. look up things like planks just diffrent things will help with your abs. especialy if you have been doing the exact same exercises for a while.

danny81 · 04-18-2008, 01:53 PM

well what is good to do for obliques? and idk were gazs things are.

tomuchgear · 04-18-2008, 08:38 PM

go ahead and use the search engine on the forum. i would type some but i am a little buzzed at this point and may not come out right. i think gaz or witch may have a stickie. either way just go to there profile look up posts or threads that should help. hell look up my name i started one a while back that gaz and a good few others commented on. good luck bro.

KentDog · 04-18-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

A lot of great fighters also didn't believe in training with weights because they thought it would "make them slow." Which we all know is completely false these days.

A lot of boxers still believe this today. In fact, it seems that almost all boxers who utilize weight training do not go heavy (it's what I've alway been taught, and makes sense to me since boxing is more about endurance than power).

Regarding training abs daily, it is not uncommon for boxers to do (in fact, one of my old workout regimens mandated it). However, not with weights. I don't see how training abs with weights daily could be beneficial at all (unless very light weights.. not 100 lb dumbbells).

chris mason · 04-18-2008, 11:37 PM

Use straps for your side bends if you grip is failing.

**Gazhole** · 04-19-2008, 12:26 AM

Obliques : Cross Crunches, Side Planks, Russian Twists, Woodchoppers, and i find things like dumbell rollouts and turkish getups work EVERYTHING.

tallcall · 04-19-2008, 06:46 AM

Danny and I train our grips together. It's all done at bodyweight so no need for expensive weights. It's all high rep work and perf.....eh...done 3+ times daily. We always spot each other and are usually training in the shower, in bed, and sometimes at the computer.

You know, this might explain why my right hand has a stronger grip than my left......Danny, looks like we're going to have to get back at it going lefties.

tallcall · 04-19-2008, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KentDog

A lot of boxers still believe this today. In fact, it seems that almost all boxers who utilize weight training do not go heavy (it's what I've alway been taught, and makes sense to me since boxing is more about endurance than power).

Regarding training abs daily, it is not uncommon for boxers to do (in fact, one of my old workout regimens mandated it). However, not with weights. I don't see how training abs with weights daily could be beneficial at all (unless very light weights.. not 100 lb dumbbells).

In my Jiu-Jitsu classes it is mandatory to do 200 crunches (normal, left side, right side, bicycle), then 25-50 leg outs, 25 kicks, 25 scisors, and sometimes 25 supermans as a circuit for our warm-ups. None of it is weighted.

Also, we do a kind of supinated plank supporting ourselves with our hands under our butts holding our legs straight out and keeping the line straight for about 5 minutes. Add a minute and start over each time someone drops their legs or head and we give everyone 3 "rests" where you are allowed to elevate your legs above your hips and hold for up to 30 seconds, but you are never allowed to drop your head. I usually crunch up when my neck gets sore (all the jerking because of the tourettes - usually hurts like hell - teacher knows and respects the fact that I have NEVER dropped my head and I am the only one who really has a legitimate excuse).

Of course I also do a lot of weight training with compounds and hip centric movements to improve my speed and power on the mat when fighting off my back - I can throw just about anybody off me because of the strength training.

tallcall · 04-19-2008, 10:09 AM

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joesmooth20 · 04-19-2008, 10:44 AM

If it hurts your hand I suggest maybe wearing some gloves, or maybe finding some rubber grip dumbells. 100lb sidebend seems a little extreme and you could probably get the same, if not better results with a lower more controlled weight. I've been gone from the board for a while, but it seems like your everyone's new foreman. Congrats!!!!!

joesmooth20 · 04-19-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gazhole

Obliques : Cross Crunches, Side Planks, Russian Twists, Woodchoppers, and i find things like dumbell rollouts and turkish getups work EVERYTHING.

Do side planks actually work? I've done them a time or two but felt like douche, it seems like one of those exercises where everyone stares at you.

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04-17-2008, 06:41 PM	#35
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,282	calzage ddnt no any better? hes stlll figitng today. mayweather does abs veryf often t and so does cotto
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04-17-2008, 07:03 PM	#36
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,063 Photos: 2	thats cool i was not trieng to be a dick at all bro. i train abs three days a week with alot of variation allowing to maintain strength and build. to each his own if it works for you go for it.
	"im going to go inject syntherol in my ass see if it gets me a bubble butt" i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflies.

04-17-2008, 07:23 PM	#37
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,282	iight my bad just usualy popl try and diss shit i say. yah i guess 3x a week cud work to
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04-18-2008, 08:39 AM	#39
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,063 Photos: 2	when i was younger i trained abs every day to no avail. then i got older did a bit of research and tweaked my program. now i do variations on exercises to keep thing from getting stale and keep my abs strong. you should look into some of the ab stuff posted through out the forum. gaz, and witchblade have both posted some great stuff on ab development.
	"im going to go inject syntherol in my ass see if it gets me a bubble butt" i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflies.

04-18-2008, 08:44 AM	#40
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04-18-2008, 12:11 PM	#41
Gordo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: O' Canada...stuck in the middle of you Posts: 1,001	Chalk up your hands for starters....keep at it and let the calluses set in. Your fingers will get used to the weight. I still don't get the heavy sidebends though....wouldn't you be better off having someone slam you with a medicine ball?
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04-18-2008, 12:12 PM	#42
Gordo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: O' Canada...stuck in the middle of you Posts: 1,001	Or what Iain said
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04-18-2008, 12:16 PM	#43
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,063 Photos: 2	side bends are cool and all but there are better exercises for obliques.
	"im going to go inject syntherol in my ass see if it gets me a bubble butt" i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflies.

04-18-2008, 01:36 PM	#46
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,063 Photos: 2	as i suggested before look up what gaz, and witchblade have wrote. look up things like planks just diffrent things will help with your abs. especialy if you have been doing the exact same exercises for a while.
	"im going to go inject syntherol in my ass see if it gets me a bubble butt" i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflies.

04-18-2008, 01:53 PM	#47
danny81 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,282	well what is good to do for obliques? and idk were gazs things are.
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04-18-2008, 08:38 PM	#48
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,063 Photos: 2	go ahead and use the search engine on the forum. i would type some but i am a little buzzed at this point and may not come out right. i think gaz or witch may have a stickie. either way just go to there profile look up posts or threads that should help. hell look up my name i started one a while back that gaz and a good few others commented on. good luck bro.
	"im going to go inject syntherol in my ass see if it gets me a bubble butt" i bet in the world you live in every one is a pony, eats rainbows, and craps butterflies.

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04-19-2008, 06:46 AM	#52
tallcall That's Mr. Incredible Elite Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,027 Blog Entries: 8	Danny and I train our grips together. It's all done at bodyweight so no need for expensive weights. It's all high rep work and perf.....eh...done 3+ times daily. We always spot each other and are usually training in the shower, in bed, and sometimes at the computer. You know, this might explain why my right hand has a stronger grip than my left......Danny, looks like we're going to have to get back at it going lefties.
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04-19-2008, 10:44 AM	#55
joesmooth20 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wilmington, nc Posts: 1,067	If it hurts your hand I suggest maybe wearing some gloves, or maybe finding some rubber grip dumbells. 100lb sidebend seems a little extreme and you could probably get the same, if not better results with a lower more controlled weight. I've been gone from the board for a while, but it seems like your everyone's new foreman. Congrats!!!!!