Primordialperformance.com


What is your Opinion on this Article? Written by Dr.Clay Hyght

Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Registered User

    akiss49ers's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Glattbrugg, Switzerland
    Posts
    52
    Rep Points
    10

    What is your Opinion on this Article? Written by Dr.Clay Hyght

    4) The bench press does not build big pecs!

    The bench press is the most overrated exercise of all time. In fact, if you perform the bench press in the manner that most people do, it's not even very good at stimulating the pecs.

    To make matters worse, other docs I've talked to concur with my observation that the flat barbell bench press is positively correlated with a number of shoulder injuries like AC joint problems, biciptal tendonitis, and torn pecs. (I'm referring to tendonitis of the long head of the biceps tendon where it slides through the biciptal groove on the head of the humerus — essentially a shoulder problem.)

    I'm not saying to never do the bench press; I'm just saying that I wouldn't do it any more than any other chest exercise. Actually, I'd probably do it less than most others.

  2. #2
    SHRUG LIKE YOU MEAN IT
    MODERATOR

    Gazhole's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Wales, UK
    Posts
    11,055
    Rep Points
    177740615


    I think its kinda overrated, there are other similar movements that will do a lot for you. Its still a great movement though.

    I think the problem is that people do it with their arms at a 90 degree angle from their torso which does have a higher probability of causing shoulder problems.

    The solution is not to cut it out altogether, its to do the movement properly.
    http://www.getlifting.info

    This may hurt a little... - Training Journal 2012

    Disclaimer: All health, fitness, diet, nutrition, anabolic steroid & supplement information posted here is intended for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice from a medical doctor. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. If you choose to use AAS it's your responsibility to know the laws of the country that you live in. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    huesoloco's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    187
    Rep Points
    10

    In fact, if you perform the bench press in the manner that most people do, it's not even very good at stimulating the pecs.


    Right...all I do for chest is flat bench and DB Incline and my chest blows up from it.
    Im 20. 6'3'' 235 lbs. Want to get to 8% body fat, +315 bench, +500 squat, and reach a weight between 230-240.

  4. #4
    Succinct
    ELITE MEMBER

    Witchblade's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Holland
    Posts
    4,474
    Rep Points
    2291514

    The article is completely right.

    (Except 'as most people do it' should be 'when using proper form'. Those are not the same, because most people have a shitty form so that the pecs do get stimulated maximally. Of course, as is the case with all compound exercises, chest hyperthrophy will occur.)

  5. #5
    Westside Bencher

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    188
    Rep Points
    10

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    I think the problem is that people do it with their arms at a 90 degree angle from their torso which does have a higher probability of causing shoulder problems.

    The solution is not to cut it out altogether, its to do the movement properly.

    Bingo! You've hit the nail right on the head.

    and as for benching not building big pecs, haha well I'd disagree.

    Tuck those elbows when benching. Pull the shoulder blades in together and take the stress of those shoulders. Also, people neglect their rotator cuffs too much . Predisposed weaknesses
    AtLargeNutrition - Support the company that supports strength!

  6. #6
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,761
    Rep Points
    1601019073


    Quote Originally Posted by akiss49ers View Post
    4) The bench press does not build big pecs!

    The bench press is the most overrated exercise of all time. In fact, if you perform the bench press in the manner that most people do, it's not even very good at stimulating the pecs.

    To make matters worse, other docs I've talked to concur with my observation that the flat barbell bench press is positively correlated with a number of shoulder injuries like AC joint problems, biciptal tendonitis, and torn pecs. (I'm referring to tendonitis of the long head of the biceps tendon where it slides through the biciptal groove on the head of the humerus — essentially a shoulder problem.)

    I'm not saying to never do the bench press; I'm just saying that I wouldn't do it any more than any other chest exercise. Actually, I'd probably do it less than most others.
    I think it's partially correct, not completely.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    181
    Rep Points
    1167276

    its hard for me to put too much into this article considering my chest has pretty much blown up from benching. There are other excellent lifts for your chest, but I dont know how anyone could expect to gain size on their chest without having the bench press as one of their lifts. just my two cents.

  8. #8
    Registered User

    chris mason's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    407
    Rep Points
    10

    The bench is a great exercise because it allows you to efficiently training all of the major pressing muscles of the upper body. There are other exercises which are equally effective, but that doesn't preclude the bench from being a good exercise.

  9. #9
    Succinct
    ELITE MEMBER

    Witchblade's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Holland
    Posts
    4,474
    Rep Points
    2291514

    I'm not saying to never do the bench press; I'm just saying that I wouldn't do it any more than any other chest exercise. Actually, I'd probably do it less than most others.

    The phrase everyone seems to have missed.

  10. #10
    Westside Bencher

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    188
    Rep Points
    10

    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
    I'm not saying to never do the bench press; I'm just saying that I wouldn't do it any more than any other chest exercise. Actually, I'd probably do it less than most others.

    The phrase everyone seems to have missed.
    I'd still disagree. I don't do any other chest movement except bench. I might do a set of flyes every once in a great while. 99% of it though it flat bench
    AtLargeNutrition - Support the company that supports strength!

  11. #11
    Succinct
    ELITE MEMBER

    Witchblade's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Holland
    Posts
    4,474
    Rep Points
    2291514

    You're a powerlifter though, right Travis? Powerlifters have all the reason in the world to bench.

  12. #12
    Westside Bencher

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    188
    Rep Points
    10

    yes I am, but my pec development hasn't suffered at all as a result was my point.

    that said though I understand what you're saying. If my goal was only to achieve hypertrophy, I wouldn't train the same way.
    AtLargeNutrition - Support the company that supports strength!

Similar Threads

  1. Andrew Dice Clay- Ur Favorite DVDs
    By oaktownboy in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-30-2007, 10:24 PM
  2. New Book out written by fellow IM brother
    By Purdue Power in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 48
    Last Post: 04-10-2006, 01:55 PM
  3. HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHO TO MARRY? (written by kids)
    By BabsieGirl in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 11-05-2005, 11:45 AM
  4. Who's it gonna be: Ruben or Clay?
    By Crono1000 in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 48
    Last Post: 05-22-2003, 11:41 AM
  5. Whoa!!! Even I thought Clay was good tonight!!!
    By Crono1000 in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-30-2003, 07:36 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


DISCLAIMER:
All health, fitness, diet, nutrition & supplement information presented on IronMagazineForums.com's pages is intended as an educational resource and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website. As well as any exercise technique or regimen, diet, supplement, etc., particularly if you are pregnant or nursing, or if you are elderly or have chronic or recurring medical conditions. Discontinue any exercise that causes you pain or severe discomfort and consult a medical expert. The statements made about products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (U.S.). They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any condition or disease. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made at IronMagazineForums.com. Neither the author of the information, nor the producer, nor distributors of such information make any warranty of any kind in regard to the content of the information presented on this website. Except as specifically stated on this site, neither IronMagazineForums.com, nor any of its authors or other representatives will be liable for damages arising out of, or in connection with the use of this site. This is a comprehensive limitation of liability that applies to all damages of any kind, including (without limitation) compensatory, direct, indirect or consequential damages, loss of data, income or profit, loss of or damage to property and claims of third parties. Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site.