Negatives

The Rose · 07-12-2002, 05:47 AM

What are negatives?

TJohn · 07-12-2002, 06:14 AM

When you lift a weight you perform the positive part of an exercise, when you lower the weight you perform negative movement. If you blast the weight up fast and then slowly lower it I believe that is whats called doing negatives.

TJohn

ponyboy · 07-12-2002, 07:08 AM

The negative is the most effective portion of a repetition. Many lifters use negatives to blast through a plateau and gain strength...you simply load up a bar with 110 or 120% of your max (with a good spotter, of course) when doing bench or squats (on a power rack) or whatever and only do the negative portion...doing the positive with assistance. Or with regular weights you can lower the weight slower (like a 4-6 second count) and then explode it up on the positive portion. They will make you sore...

ponyboy · 07-12-2002, 07:08 AM

Sorry, forgot to mention that beginners probably shouldn't do these...wait until you have experience before trying them for your own safety.

TJohn · 07-12-2002, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ponyboy
Sorry, forgot to mention that beginners probably shouldn't do these...wait until you have experience before trying them for your own safety.

Good point, forgot to mention that myself.

TJohn

Captain · 07-12-2002, 09:17 AM

I've had some of my best growth following intermittent workouts using negatives. (A few intense weeks out of the year)

BIGGIN · 07-12-2002, 11:43 AM

There is training system that uses negatives all the time. Its called TUT or Time Under Tension. (I use this method)
In my opinion it works wonders.

Scotty the Body · 07-12-2002, 11:48 AM

It also works good if you can't do pullups yet. use a bench to get you up to the top position, then raise your feet behind you and slowly lower yourself down. Even though you can't lift yourself up yet, use some weight as well as your body weight and you'll be able to do pullups in no time.

Training God · 07-12-2002, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BIGGIN
There is training system that uses negatives all the time. Its called TUT or Time Under Tension. (I use this method)
In my opinion it works wonders.

*** This method is used for all portions of the movement. It's not just limited to the negative ROM.

**Mudge** · 07-12-2002, 12:17 PM

TUT seems pretty cool, but I didn't happen to notice anything abnormal about use of negatives within it.

Scotty the Body · 07-12-2002, 12:31 PM

The idea with negatives it that your doing more weight than you can lift without a spotter while TUT is the full range of motion, both positive and negative so they arn't really ment to do together.

sandwich · 07-12-2002, 05:31 PM

after yer reps positive...top of the motion....slowly let down/back the weight. this is a major factor in builing muscle and strenght that alot dont do!

i train by this method.

07-12-2002, 05:47 AM	#1
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07-12-2002, 07:08 AM	#3
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	The negative is the most effective portion of a repetition. Many lifters use negatives to blast through a plateau and gain strength...you simply load up a bar with 110 or 120% of your max (with a good spotter, of course) when doing bench or squats (on a power rack) or whatever and only do the negative portion...doing the positive with assistance. Or with regular weights you can lower the weight slower (like a 4-6 second count) and then explode it up on the positive portion. They will make you sore...
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07-12-2002, 07:08 AM	#4
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	Sorry, forgot to mention that beginners probably shouldn't do these...wait until you have experience before trying them for your own safety.
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07-12-2002, 11:48 AM	#8
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	It also works good if you can't do pullups yet. use a bench to get you up to the top position, then raise your feet behind you and slowly lower yourself down. Even though you can't lift yourself up yet, use some weight as well as your body weight and you'll be able to do pullups in no time.
	Cool

07-12-2002, 12:17 PM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,997 Photos: 1	TUT seems pretty cool, but I didn't happen to notice anything abnormal about use of negatives within it.
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07-12-2002, 06:14 AM	#2
TJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 445	When you lift a weight you perform the positive part of an exercise, when you lower the weight you perform negative movement. If you blast the weight up fast and then slowly lower it I believe that is whats called doing negatives. TJohn

07-12-2002, 09:17 AM	#6
Captain franchise player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some people with everything do nothing, some with nothing do everything Posts: 31	I've had some of my best growth following intermittent workouts using negatives. (A few intense weeks out of the year)

07-12-2002, 11:43 AM	#7
BIGGIN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Where the "IRON GAME" is played Posts: 3	There is training system that uses negatives all the time. Its called TUT or Time Under Tension. (I use this method) In my opinion it works wonders.

07-12-2002, 12:31 PM	#11
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	The idea with negatives it that your doing more weight than you can lift without a spotter while TUT is the full range of motion, both positive and negative so they arn't really ment to do together.
	Cool

07-12-2002, 05:31 PM	#12
sandwich muscle= train,eat,sleep! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: ont,canada Posts: 91	after yer reps positive...top of the motion....slowly let down/back the weight. this is a major factor in builing muscle and strenght that alot dont do! i train by this method.

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