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Old 05-28-2008, 08:01 PM   #1
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Weight training program while in a caloric deficit

I was wondering... I weigh 205 now at about 14-15% bf, and im trying to get to 10-12 bf% at 190 ish lbs, so naturally I am eating much smaller, more frequent meals high in protein and low in carbs (save pre/post w.o). How does that affect my muscle? Will I still theoritically gain strength and muscle mass if I am eating little calories but working out hard and intense in the gym? Bare in mind, I am a very musclar person already, and I am just trying to "lean" out (the man boobs have worn out their welcome).

What do you guys think? I am for sure sticking to my smaller portion, reduced calorie plan, as fat loss is my primary goal. At the same time, Im weight training at lesat 3-4 times a week using the Power/Reprange/Shock program by gopro... think I should switch my program (for the next 2-3 months anyway) to a more cardio/high intensity type, total body workouts? (that includes stuff like power clean and presses, squat/curl/press exercises, abdominal circuits, etc)

btw, I am not NEARLY as concerned with gaining muscle mass as I am with losing bf%. I am mainly looking to lose fat, while "maintaining" muscle and not lose it.



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Old 05-28-2008, 08:04 PM   #2
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Well you definitely won't gain muscle mass, it's just physiologically impossible to do in a caloric deficit. You could still potentially see strength gains as CNS efficiency increases meaning you are able to activate more muscle fibers on each repetition than you previously could.

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Old 05-28-2008, 08:16 PM   #3
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haha Built already set me straight with my diet!

Im gonna look at doing some ballistics training and total body workouts 3-4 times a week, in a higher rep range (12-15) to really turn my body into a metabolic furnace.can anyone recomend any programs similar to this? that really utizile a cardiovascular workout, while working mutliple muscle groups in the one exercise? I love training for strength in the low rep range, but I wanna try a program like this for at least 8-16 weeks and shed these last 10-15 pounds, THEN gain some mass after the summer.



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Old 05-28-2008, 08:33 PM   #4
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Hon, be sure to do some heavy, low-rep work at least twice a week while you do this.

I have an article on complexes on my blog. You could try those a few times a week, plus a full-body basic workout like I also have over there say twice a week. Low volume, but heavy - this will preserve lean mass while you shred, k?
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ooo I like it. I checked out the complexes page... thats intense! I am definitely gonna incoporate that into my program. I especially like all the explosive type exercises that involve jumping and moving around with a bunch of iron on your back!

My question is, how did you incorporate complexes into your regular routine? My goal program is 4 times a week, with 2 complex/cardiovasularly based sessions, and to also incorporate lifting for strength (low rep/high weight) and for mass as well. I dont want to over train any muscles (although, with the way that the complexes are designed it seems bound that its going to happen, at least in a minor way) and I also want to work out each bodypart each week, evenly. Is this type of program possible? keeping in mind, im willing to make it flexible... as in, if i dont fully get a good strength workout for say...shoulders, ill make up for it next week, and so on and so forth, keeping a log of all my progress. possible?



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Complexes aren't heavy like your regular weight training - you won't overtrain if you do 'em a few times a week.

Working bodyparts is not exactly optimal. Think "movement patterns" - horizontal and vertical pushing and pulling, quad dominant work, posterior chain work...

So, two lifting workouts a week, and two complexes? Easy. Do the full body workout on my blog twice a week, and any two complexes followed by half an hour of moderate-intensity steady-state cardio the other days. Remember, you are cutting, not bulking - the lifting needs to be frequent and heavy, not once a week and "rape your bodypart with volume". Save that for a bulk. Come to think of it, leave that to the OTHER people when THEY'RE bulking. We have MUCH better ways to train for you here.
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Complexes aren't heavy like your regular weight training - you won't overtrain if you do 'em a few times a week.

Working bodyparts is not exactly optimal. Think "movement patterns" - horizontal and vertical pushing and pulling, quad dominant work, posterior chain work...

So, two lifting workouts a week, and two complexes? Easy. Do the full body workout on my blog twice a week, and any two complexes followed by half an hour of moderate-intensity steady-state cardio the other days. Remember, you are cutting, not bulking - the lifting needs to be frequent and heavy - but brief, not once a week and "rape your bodypart with volume". Save that for a bulk. Come to think of it, leave that to the OTHER people when THEY'RE bulking. We have MUCH better ways to train for you here.
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Sounds like a good plan Im gonna iron out a program today, and follow it for 8 weeks and see how im feeling about it. If im gettin good fat loss results (wich, i beleive I will) then Ill probly keep with it through the summer.



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There are a few options for you as you work through this. For example, depending how many days a week you want to go to the gym, you could do three full-body workouts and two complexes workouts or the other way around. or alternate weeks. You could lift and then do metabolic work four days a week - that's what I do. Short lifting workout, then the metabolic work - and I vary it. Sprint intervals once a week, hills once a week, complexes once a week, and bicycle sprints once a week. How to do Cardio if you MUST is set up this way. You can have a look at that too.
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I'm on a defecit, and seem to be getting stronger. Getting constant PR's on deadlifts and squats. All I do now is lift heavy.



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