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camarosuper6 · 09-20-2008, 01:02 PM

Im having some problems in my bicep tendons it seems. This issue always seems to flair up when I do heavy barbell curls, or curls of any kind really.

I get deep pains in the tendon area of my bicep when I attempt to do heavy curls, and it does not matter the positioning of my grip. Nothing takes away the pain.

Usually the only relief is rest, but I need to find a permanent solution.

Ive looked into different braces typically used for tennis elbow, because I also get a deep pain in my forearms after releasing the weight, which is a sign of tendonitis, but I feel the problem may be deeper than that.

I usually do my bicep work after back, and my back workouts are humming along fine without pain, but I am considering either
a) working out biceps and triceps separately
or
b) doing my bicep workout before my back (which of course could hamper my weights for back)

solutions? Ideas? Anything would be appreciated.

Stewart14 · 09-20-2008, 05:32 PM

how about laying off the bicep work totally? I know, seems too simple of a solution to even post, but from what I remember of you, you have some massive strength and use big poundages on the compounds, so I would assume if you just blasted away on rows, and dips and benching and stuff your arms would be fine....unless you plan to compete in a bodybuilding show or something like that.

I know there is a difference in my arms when I do the direct work, but I don't really do it anymore, I just focus on increasing my big compounds, and my arms are certainly not small, maybe not as intricately defined as other arms, but they have size and strength

powerrack · 09-20-2008, 07:16 PM

I used to have the same exact problem. It was severe, I had the pain in my lower bis, and outer forearms. It was bad enough where I felt "disabled" during training, I had problems doing anytype of pressing motion, curling, and tricep movements. Ask built who is a mod on these forums, I used to beg her for a massage and she gave in to stop hearing me whine and complain of my pains in that area.

I can almost say I'm just about 100% cured from the problem, I haven't had to deal with it in over 6 months, what did I do?

1. Take a full break off lifting, I suggest a week at least.

2. Stop doing heavy straight bar curls, this is havok on the tendons for some people. I suggest you stop doing them now! I find just dumbells are fine for bis, hammer curls and alternate dumbells work fine for me with no pain.

3. Increase omega 3's. I increased my intake of fish oil and it definatly did the trick, I give this a lot of the credit in helping me out.

4. Use Tiger Balm or similar in the area before you train, it will heat up the area.

I think the main point is to get some rest in right now, and trust me on the fish oils, it might seem minor but once you start using them or increase them, you will feel the difference in a matter of a week or so.

**P-funk** · 09-21-2008, 12:15 AM

see a manual therapist that can break up the calcification within the tendonis attachment.

camarosuper6 · 09-22-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

see a manual therapist that can break up the calcification within the tendonis attachment.

Great posts everyone.

Thank you.

This is something Im also looking to do, but I want to find a good therapist in my area. Can I use a foam roller for this?

**P-funk** · 09-22-2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Great posts everyone.

Thank you.

This is something Im also looking to do, but I want to find a good therapist in my area. Can I use a foam roller for this?

foam roller on the biceps tendon is tough....you may have better luck with a tennis ball actually.

Try and search the ART website as that technique is pretty effective for tendinopathy problems.

You may want to look for someone who does Neuromuscular Techniques also...they can be really really helpful with these problems. Check the website, nmtcenter.com to try and find a therapist.

camarosuper6 · 10-02-2008, 12:28 AM

Im currently doing just that.

Thanks

dantheman144 · 10-06-2008, 11:52 AM

i had same problem and switched the bicep work to the push day and tricep to the pull day . pain still there but not as much and got better gains too

09-20-2008, 01:02 PM	#1
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	Advice Im having some problems in my bicep tendons it seems. This issue always seems to flair up when I do heavy barbell curls, or curls of any kind really. I get deep pains in the tendon area of my bicep when I attempt to do heavy curls, and it does not matter the positioning of my grip. Nothing takes away the pain. Usually the only relief is rest, but I need to find a permanent solution. Ive looked into different braces typically used for tennis elbow, because I also get a deep pain in my forearms after releasing the weight, which is a sign of tendonitis, but I feel the problem may be deeper than that. I usually do my bicep work after back, and my back workouts are humming along fine without pain, but I am considering either a) working out biceps and triceps separately or b) doing my bicep workout before my back (which of course could hamper my weights for back) solutions? Ideas? Anything would be appreciated. "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

09-20-2008, 05:32 PM	#2
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,608 Photos: 2	how about laying off the bicep work totally? I know, seems too simple of a solution to even post, but from what I remember of you, you have some massive strength and use big poundages on the compounds, so I would assume if you just blasted away on rows, and dips and benching and stuff your arms would be fine....unless you plan to compete in a bodybuilding show or something like that. I know there is a difference in my arms when I do the direct work, but I don't really do it anymore, I just focus on increasing my big compounds, and my arms are certainly not small, maybe not as intricately defined as other arms, but they have size and strength http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

09-21-2008, 12:15 AM	#4
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09-20-2008, 07:16 PM	#3
powerrack Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CANADA Posts: 148	I used to have the same exact problem. It was severe, I had the pain in my lower bis, and outer forearms. It was bad enough where I felt "disabled" during training, I had problems doing anytype of pressing motion, curling, and tricep movements. Ask built who is a mod on these forums, I used to beg her for a massage and she gave in to stop hearing me whine and complain of my pains in that area. I can almost say I'm just about 100% cured from the problem, I haven't had to deal with it in over 6 months, what did I do? 1. Take a full break off lifting, I suggest a week at least. 2. Stop doing heavy straight bar curls, this is havok on the tendons for some people. I suggest you stop doing them now! I find just dumbells are fine for bis, hammer curls and alternate dumbells work fine for me with no pain. 3. Increase omega 3's. I increased my intake of fish oil and it definatly did the trick, I give this a lot of the credit in helping me out. 4. Use Tiger Balm or similar in the area before you train, it will heat up the area. I think the main point is to get some rest in right now, and trust me on the fish oils, it might seem minor but once you start using them or increase them, you will feel the difference in a matter of a week or so.

10-06-2008, 11:52 AM	#8
dantheman144 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: uk Posts: 63	i had same problem and switched the bicep work to the push day and tricep to the pull day . pain still there but not as much and got better gains too