full contact twists to increase bench press

GoLdeN M 07 · 09-24-2008, 08:52 PM

If do full contact twists like I do, you know that it is an excellent movement for the obliques invented by the russians to increase punching power and speed since punching power/speed come from the core. Does this mean that my bench press will also increase in a way?

fufu · 09-24-2008, 09:08 PM

what is a full contact twist?

**P-funk** · 09-24-2008, 09:39 PM

^^ ditto

GoLdeN M 07 · 09-24-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

what is a full contact twist?

search it up on google or youtube, they have plenty of descriptions. I cant believe u guys have never heard of it..? Theres more to strength training than benching and squating.

anyways, since this movement dramatically increases punching power/speed giving the arms extra power from the core, does this mean that my bench will increase as well?

**P-funk** · 09-24-2008, 10:07 PM

looked at some videos....I call the landmines....I don't particualry like the way those are being demo'd though. The torso should stay still as the arms move (think driving a steering wheel), and the torso and abdominal muscular should be braced and preventing rotatin.

**Merkaba** · 09-24-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

search it up on google or youtube, they have plenty of descriptions. I cant believe u guys have never heard of it..? Theres more to strength training than benching and squating.

anyways, since this movement dramatically increases punching power/speed giving the arms extra power from the core, does this mean that my bench will increase as well?

Well just because a few people haven't heard of full contact twists means shouldnt result in some a "woa get with the times people" reply. You said theres more to strenght training then benching and squatting, then come back and ask if a dam twist will help your bench? yea maybe by 2 pounds.

Theres also more to strength training then increasing bench, or working out for that matter. Whats your lean body mass? How many calories do you take in per day? How many grams of protein? Carbs? Fat?

I used to do these exercises often before I switched gyms and now there's no corner or assembly to do them on, nor the room for them. There no big deal. Just another exercise. I never introduced them to anyone I trained because they are too easy to do wrong. I don't want to be a russian fighter and could care less. If you want to increase size or strength for a muscle group there's a few principals to follow. One of which is stop doing bench press three times a week like you probably do if you ask this question.

I'm in one of those dam moods now...

fufu · 09-25-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

I cant believe u guys have never heard of it..? Theres more to strength training than benching and squating.

No shit.

Dude, I mean this with offense - you have proven to be pretty ignorant in the ways of training as long as I can remember your posts. Who are you to say such a pompous remark?

Funny how you say this in a post that displays your training ignorance once again.

**Gazhole** · 09-25-2008, 06:01 AM

Agree with Merkaba and fufu.

Id choose a squat over some of this gimmick shit you post any day (see: Full Contact Twists, The Corkscrew Method, Stomach Vacuums, that Overhead Press thing a while ago...)

You say theres more to training than benching, but i could pull out a handful of posts of yours in the last year that are based around you increasing your bench or a problem with your bench, this one included!

But to answer your question, no. These probably wont increase your bench. If they increase punching power it is because of the increased momentum from the twist that occurs while you are punching, not cos of actual increased strength in the arms.

Hell, from my experience punching has hardly shit all to do with the arms anyway, relative to the back, shoulders, legs, and core.

KelJu · 09-25-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

search it up on google or youtube, they have plenty of descriptions. I cant believe u guys have never heard of it..? Theres more to strength training than benching and squating.

anyways, since this movement dramatically increases punching power/speed giving the arms extra power from the core, does this mean that my bench will increase as well?

You have a problem with asking for help then insulting those who try to help you. Grow up and do your own research from now on.

Richie1888 · 09-25-2008, 10:14 AM

they get a mention in here if you want a read

T-Nation.com | 21st Century Core Training

aww and ye you suck for being cheeky or whatever

GoLdeN M 07 · 09-25-2008, 01:56 PM

damn if i really offended u guys that im sorry

jesus christ

KelJu · 09-25-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

damn if i really offended u guys that im sorry

jesus christ

Take it as a life lesson. When others who know more than you donate their time to answer your questions, don't be a wise ass when you don't like what you hear. You have done that often in the past.

GoLdeN M 07 · 09-25-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KelJu

Take it as a life lesson. When others who know more than you donate their time to answer your questions, don't be a wise ass when you don't like what you hear. You have done that often in the past.

alright so what is the answer to my question, we're past the offending part. Is it possible that it could increase my bench due to the power coming from the core?

**Gazhole** · 09-25-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

alright so what is the answer to my question, we're past the offending part. Is it possible that it could increase my bench due to the power coming from the core?

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Originally Posted by Gazhole

But to answer your question, no. These probably wont increase your bench. If they increase punching power it is because of the increased momentum from the twist that occurs while you are punching, not cos of actual increased strength in the arms.

Hell, from my experience punching has hardly shit all to do with the arms anyway, relative to the back, shoulders, legs, and core.

KelJu · 09-25-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07

alright so what is the answer to my question, we're past the offending part. Is it possible that it could increase my bench due to the power coming from the core?

No. Bench pressing increases bench pressing power.

09-24-2008, 08:52 PM	#1
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	full contact twists to increase bench press If do full contact twists like I do, you know that it is an excellent movement for the obliques invented by the russians to increase punching power and speed since punching power/speed come from the core. Does this mean that my bench press will also increase in a way?

09-24-2008, 09:08 PM	#2
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09-24-2008, 09:39 PM	#3
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,702	^^ ditto E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

09-24-2008, 10:07 PM	#5
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,702	looked at some videos....I call the landmines....I don't particualry like the way those are being demo'd though. The torso should stay still as the arms move (think driving a steering wheel), and the torso and abdominal muscular should be braced and preventing rotatin. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

09-25-2008, 06:01 AM	#8
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 8,003 Photos: 19	Agree with Merkaba and fufu. Id choose a squat over some of this gimmick shit you post any day (see: Full Contact Twists, The Corkscrew Method, Stomach Vacuums, that Overhead Press thing a while ago...) You say theres more to training than benching, but i could pull out a handful of posts of yours in the last year that are based around you increasing your bench or a problem with your bench, this one included! But to answer your question, no. These probably wont increase your bench. If they increase punching power it is because of the increased momentum from the twist that occurs while you are punching, not cos of actual increased strength in the arms. Hell, from my experience punching has hardly shit all to do with the arms anyway, relative to the back, shoulders, legs, and core. http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 13/11/09 ***READ THIS FOR TRAINING INFO:*** http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/99879-articles-ironmagazineforums-members.html If you want to win the fight, say "I BELIEVE".

09-25-2008, 10:14 AM	#10
Richie1888 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,235	they get a mention in here if you want a read T-Nation.com \| 21st Century Core Training aww and ye you suck for being cheeky or whatever When you play for Celtic forget the Jersey forget the club, your playing for a people and a cause.

09-25-2008, 01:56 PM	#11
GoLdeN M 07 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mahwah, NJ Posts: 705	damn if i really offended u guys that im sorry jesus christ

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