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    Hey

    Hello am new here and hoping I can get some answers
    first off I have to major issues so you guys can ether answer them both or 1
    if you do thank you so much, well here we go,


    1)First problem am not really fat but got some meat and such on me with a little beer looking belly. now heres what I do now. I eat alot and I really dont do any exercise which has to change. now the problem is I cannot diet. I have no job and cant afford it myself (im 16) I bagged my mom for weeks and she wont buy me the foods for a diet or healthier foods. my mom buys nothing but junk but she buys it for the whole family and small amount of it. buying me my own specail foods takes away food from the rest of my family inc we are very low income so and trust me on this healthier foods and diet foods are way out of the questions. so im thinking I may not get super skinny but think about it if i try to eat less and try my best to eat healthier foods and small amounts and heres what im start to do, as i said i dont exercise but if i start running a lot and jogging and playing sports and such everyday ill lose weight I mean i gained extra weight from sitting on my ass all day all the time but if i go from doing nothing to doing a shit load of running and all other type of cardios and a new workout. so my question is will i lose some body fat and lose some wieght if i go from doing absolutely nothing to running and jogging and any other type of carido everyday? i mean i have to it will work that extra body fat off

    2) I have a barbell (idk 15 pounds) and my weights go up to maybe 100 pounds with all my weights
    now i got dumbbells that use the same weights and i got pull up bar and weight gloves
    I asked people and they said compound exercises are better then isolation for someone who has not worked out in a long time. I did workout and used to be buffer and skinnier and such and had muscles but i had to stop the gym for almost 7 months due to the money issues i said above so they said I need my base again and they said compound builds up base and strength while isolation works on sculpting muscles. so i went into a forums and made a post and some guy who i believe said he was a trainer gave me a workout and my question is for you guys to tell me if the workout is ok and will help me build muscle and lose weight here it is (sets and reps may change)

    Day 1:
    Deadlifts: 10 Reps 3 Sets 1 min Rest

    Paired 1:
    Dips:4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest
    DB Rows:4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest

    Tri Paired 1:
    Diamond Push Ups: 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest x6 cycle
    Inverted Rows: 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest x6 cycle
    Hanging Leg Raises 4 Reps 6 Sets 30 Sec Rest x6 cycle

    Day 2:
    Bench:10 Reps 3 Sets 1 Min Rest

    Paired 1:
    Front (Squats) 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest
    Shoulder Press 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest

    Paired 2:
    Face Pull 4 Reps 6 Sets 30 Sec Rest
    Close Grip Push Up 4 Reps 6 Sets 30 Sec Rest

    Day 3:
    Chin Ups 10 Reps 3 Sets 1 Min Rest

    Paired 1:
    DB Incline Press 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest
    DB Chest Supported Rows 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest

    Paired 2:
    Reverse Lunges (Hold For Time) 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest
    Prone Ab Brace (Hold For Time) 4 Reps 6 Sets 1 Min Rest

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    Eat below you calorie maintenance and you won't need to do any exercise to lose weight. Your body will consume fat for the extra energy it needs to maintain itself. Combine that with exercise and you'll burn more fat as more calories are burned in exercise than doing nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logman View Post
    Eat below you calorie maintenance and you won't need to do any exercise to lose weight. Your body will consume fat for the extra energy it needs to maintain itself. Combine that with exercise and you'll burn more fat as more calories are burned in exercise than doing nothing.
    Thats what I thought,What an normal amount of cals and carbs to take in a day?

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    Eggs.
    bulk Oatmeal.
    Canned Tuna
    Beans
    Whole wheat bread.
    Fruit.

    All of those foods are quite healthy, and can be bought for easily under 15-20 bucks. I know the situation you are dealing with... my family used to eat quite unhealthy. We fried foods, took full advantage of 2 dollar Tuesdays at KFC and our home entrees were frozen more often than not. Wich by the way, can be curbed. If the desire is there, you CAN choose what you eat. Deep fried chicken? take off the skin. Chicken fingers and fries? Take off the breading by hand (it can be tedious... no one said this was easy) and limit your fry consumption. Everyone having dessert? skip it.

    The fact is, its possible to eat healthy under a relatively limited budget. The most expensive foods I can think of would be fresh meats, boneless skinless chicken breasts, or protein powder. But much can be acheived on a budget. I went from 260 to 200 without a job. Exercise, work out (smartly; id recommend brushing up your weight lifting wherewithall using the stickies, or the wonderfullly useful "google"), and eat right (and if you cant eat the best food, eating less) and you will reach your goal.

    Mind set is key. If you want it, you can have it. The only one that can do ANYTHING about it, is you. Goodluck.

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    at 15 you should be entering high school??
    see what you can do about getting into the high school weight room

    might be a possibility for a cheap place to work out

    others might include

    community college
    churches
    community centers

    although
    a pullup bar, dip bar, and some free weights should do it for you for awhile


    eating healthy is tough when you live at home man...
    im 21 and im still struggleing...

    moms love to feed their children cookies etc... and there so damn goood...

    keep doing research and youll learn to make the best decisions possible

    fitday.com as built said, is a pretty stellar place to track your diet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben dur View Post
    at 15 you should be entering high school??
    see what you can do about getting into the high school weight room

    might be a possibility for a cheap place to work out

    others might include

    community college
    churches
    community centers

    although
    a pullup bar, dip bar, and some free weights should do it for you for awhile


    eating healthy is tough when you live at home man...
    im 21 and im still struggleing...

    moms love to feed their children cookies etc... and there so damn goood...

    keep doing research and youll learn to make the best decisions possible

    fitday.com as built said, is a pretty stellar place to track your diet
    Well i turn 17 on the 20th and the problem is i just need a workout to get back back into action with what i have and get strong with some muscle growth to get a nice body like i used to....when we had money for diet foods and such and had money for gym.....but so many trainers have so many thoughts on what is a good workout and what is not its hard to decide

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    well

    ive had a few run ins with "trainers"
    its funny how some of them think

    but just to clearify something

    WORKING OUT
    is better than not

    make sure you use care in proper form and caution in your training
    dont do extreme movements that could injure you

    and just lift
    you could study it for years and still find new information


    just stay with it and you will see result
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    Eat and stick to the basics if youre confused by trainers. Bench movements, with dumbells too! Pull ups, rows, squats and deadlifts. Go hard. and eat and you'll grow. Experiment with more exotic stuff as you learn and research. Don't max out on the isolation stuff as it will only take away from your ability to do the complex movements later.
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    im going to have to agree with merk almost 100%


    in fact
    there is only a small handfull of exercises i ever do with a barbell

    DB's for the win


    --- merkaba, id have to agree with your new signature aswell
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    Sorry for such a long time on this reply

    Quote Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege View Post
    Eggs.
    bulk Oatmeal.
    Canned Tuna
    Beans
    Whole wheat bread.
    Fruit.

    All of those foods are quite healthy, and can be bought for easily under 15-20 bucks. I know the situation you are dealing with... my family used to eat quite unhealthy. We fried foods, took full advantage of 2 dollar Tuesdays at KFC and our home entrees were frozen more often than not. Wich by the way, can be curbed. If the desire is there, you CAN choose what you eat. Deep fried chicken? take off the skin. Chicken fingers and fries? Take off the breading by hand (it can be tedious... no one said this was easy) and limit your fry consumption. Everyone having dessert? skip it.

    The fact is, its possible to eat healthy under a relatively limited budget. The most expensive foods I can think of would be fresh meats, boneless skinless chicken breasts, or protein powder. But much can be acheived on a budget. I went from 260 to 200 without a job. Exercise, work out (smartly; id recommend brushing up your weight lifting wherewithall using the stickies, or the wonderfullly useful "google"), and eat right (and if you cant eat the best food, eating less) and you will reach your goal.

    Mind set is key. If you want it, you can have it. The only one that can do ANYTHING about it, is you. Goodluck.

    Thanks, got any other times about how to make some foods better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben dur View Post
    well

    ive had a few run ins with "trainers"
    its funny how some of them think

    but just to clearify something

    WORKING OUT
    is better than not

    make sure you use care in proper form and caution in your training
    dont do extreme movements that could injure you

    and just lift
    you could study it for years and still find new information


    just stay with it and you will see result
    am not worried about that, iv been doing some stuff and inc trainers showed mne how to do the movments right and when to flex and pump my muslces on every exercises iv learned...inc breathing


    one thing is some time in the future I want a body like this

    http://www.ibspro.net/wp-content/upl...y_building.jpg

    but i dont know but when i think about compound exercises I think that Ill get hulky and stocky but not really riped like ill see more mass in my legs and chest then in my bicepts and such

    1)if i do the workout above well I get ripped muscles and soem def? aslong as i can see the shape of the muscles to give me a good body like in the pic instead of seeing hughe lumps on my body im lright with it, I want to be able to take my shirt off and show off my muscles (and i mean all of them bicepts,tris, etc etc) and still be sstrong

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    there are ways to isolate the extremities more when doing compound exercises

    the key to compound movements is that your activating ALOT of muscles

    your test levels increase, and the overall muscular microtrauma is greater

    you will burn MANY more calories, and build muscles throughout your body faster

    if you look at this picture the models chest is HGIHLY developed, as well as his triceps and shoulders
    -this comes from doing compound pushing motions

    his lats are wide and developed thoroughly, as well his biceps are full
    -this comes from compound pulling work

    his abs are tight, developed, and he has a thin waistline; all of which almost undoubtedly tappers into massively proportioned thighs
    -this comes from doing lots of compound lower body work, which requires the stabilization of the abdominal, and lower back


    all of this comes with time, and porper training, of course being ripped is all about having the physic, then dieting into the body fat range desired...

    sure, you can do isolated work to hit your weak spots, though i wouldnt BASE my routine around them

    in time, you will have a VERY clear picture in your mind of where you can take YOUR body, and the routine you want to use to get it there

    in the mean time, i would stick to mostly compound work, and you will see results.
    if you must do isolated work, spare it for the burnout sets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben dur View Post
    there are ways to isolate the extremities more when doing compound exercises

    the key to compound movements is that your activating ALOT of muscles

    your test levels increase, and the overall muscular microtrauma is greater

    you will burn MANY more calories, and build muscles throughout your body faster

    if you look at this picture the models chest is HGIHLY developed, as well as his triceps and shoulders
    -this comes from doing compound pushing motions

    his lats are wide and developed thoroughly, as well his biceps are full
    -this comes from compound pulling work

    his abs are tight, developed, and he has a thin waistline; all of which almost undoubtedly tappers into massively proportioned thighs
    -this comes from doing lots of compound lower body work, which requires the stabilization of the abdominal, and lower back


    all of this comes with time, and porper training, of course being ripped is all about having the physic, then dieting into the body fat range desired...

    sure, you can do isolated work to hit your weak spots, though i wouldnt BASE my routine around them

    in time, you will have a VERY clear picture in your mind of where you can take YOUR body, and the routine you want to use to get it there

    in the mean time, i would stick to mostly compound work, and you will see results.
    if you must do isolated work, spare it for the burnout sets...
    Cool so stick to the workout? im try it out soon and find the right amount of sets and reps and maybe add some last minute isolation exercises that i dont think are getting workouted out enough

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    compound movements for the win

    give it some time and you will start to see how it effects your physique

    if you think its a must, throw in some isolated stuff, but dont let the isolated stuff hinder your compound exercises

    i generally like to do my heaviest exercises first

    that way im putting out 100%, with minimal prior fatigue
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