Today's Back!

Dr. Pain · 08-01-2002, 01:04 PM

Disclaimer: NOT a beginner W/O. use this for ideas, and a fun time!

All Super, Tri, and Giant sets, rest only after the last exercise, interval stated. ALL w8's pyramided unless noted, EACH set!

Upper Back

1a Wide Grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6 reps
1b Reverse grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6 reps 60 sec RI

2a Narrow Parallel grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6 reps
2b Wide Parallel grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6, reps 60 second RI

Middle Back

3a BB T-bar Rows 8, 8, 7 reps
3b Reverse grip BB bent rows 8, 8, 7, reps
3c Seated cable rows, narrow neutral grip 8, 8, 7, reps
3d One arm bent DB rows, knee on bench 8, 8 ,7 reps 120 sec RI

Lower Back'

4a Seated BB good morning in the cage (safety bars) 10, 10, 10 reps
4b Swiss ball reverse hypers 12, 12, 12 reps last set w8 between the ankles
4c W8ed hyperextension 12, 12, 12 reps 120 sec RI

DP

**Mudge** · 08-01-2002, 01:10 PM

Gee whiz, looks deadly!

w8lifter · 08-01-2002, 02:33 PM

Before ya'll ask....here's a lighter version

It's what I did today

1. NG Chins 3 sets, 5, 4, 3... 120 Sec RI, about a 20 sec eccentric on the last rep of each set.

2. Plate loaded rows 4 sets, 10, 8, 6, 6...120 sec RI

3. Lat Pulldown 3 sets, 10, 8, 5 ...120 sec RI

4a. Cable Rows, V-Bar 3 sets, 10, 8, 6....RI 90 sec
4b. T-Bar Rows 3 sets, 10, 8, 8...90 sec RI,

5. W8ed Hypers 3 sets, 15, 12, 8...60 sec RI

**gopro** · 08-02-2002, 08:15 AM

Yup...definitely a DP workout. Thanks for the disclaimer!

arbntmare · 08-02-2002, 11:37 AM

sounds like a killer... gopro what is your *lighter* version?

twarrior · 08-04-2002, 07:10 AM

Wow! What a back workout. I think I'm going to give this a shot. I do about half of this and no lower back, ( I know... it's bad...). Instead of the DB rows, I bring a bench over to the cable machine and use cable rows in the same fashion as a DB row. I can't hang on to the DB for the weight I'm using. I know I'm opening the door here , but any exercise to strengthen grip???? Whacking it is outr of the question..

Dr. Pain · 08-04-2002, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twarrior
Wow! What a back workout. I think I'm going to give this a shot. I do about half of this and no lower back, ( I know... it's bad...). Instead of the DB rows, I bring a bench over to the cable machine and use cable rows in the same fashion as a DB row. I can't hang on to the DB for the weight I'm using. I know I'm opening the door here , but any exercise to strengthen grip???? Whacking it is outr of the question..

Let us know how it goes?

As for grip...when PLing years ago, I placed more emphasis on grip, now I use straps...and can lift a lot more w8, comfortably. It's kind of a trade off, better grip...or better overall physical stress leading to better overall development (Stress/adaptation)

DP

**Mudge** · 08-04-2002, 09:25 AM

I can hang on to 115 for 15 reps for dumbell shrugs, I'm not using anywhere near that for dumbell rows.

Dr. Pain · 08-04-2002, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
I can hang on to 115 for 15 reps for dumbell shrugs, I'm not using anywhere near that for dumbell rows.

That would be my point. I can probably hold 100-120 for reps on a row or shrug, but with straps, I go 150s....would go bigger if they had them! Seated shrugs with an Olympic Cambered Bench Press Bar....have gone 455...again, only because of STRAPS!

DP

**gopro** · 08-04-2002, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arbntmare
sounds like a killer... gopro what is your *lighter* version?

Don't have one...ask DP!

Dr. Pain · 08-04-2002, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro

Don't have one...ask DP!

Mine all have severe intensity, whether high voulume or low! Use w8's progam posted in this thread.

DP

**gopro** · 08-04-2002, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain

Mine all have severe intensity, whether high voulume or low! Use w8's progam posted in this thread.

DP

Hence the name Dr Pain....seriously ya'll, DP definitely has his own style!

mesomorphin' · 08-05-2002, 08:56 AM

Nice workout! I've added this to my to do list!

**Mudge** · 08-05-2002, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain

That would be my point. I can probably hold 100-120 for reps on a row or shrug, but with straps, I go 150s....would go bigger if they had them! Seated shrugs with an Olympic Cambered Bench Press Bar....have gone 455...again, only because of STRAPS!

DP

My point is that I don't know what its like to lose grip unless I was doing farmer walks. Since I'm not as strong as plenty of people here I dont know what the future holds for me, but I dont "need" straps for anything, just yet.

Robboe · 08-06-2002, 05:11 AM

DP, do you do workouts like this every time you step into the gym?

**gopro** · 08-06-2002, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
DP, do you do workouts like this every time you step into the gym?

Interesting inquiry...

Dr. Pain · 08-06-2002, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
DP, do you do workouts like this every time you step into the gym?

Hell no, I like SUPER HEAVY too!

(bigger RIs)

Do you EVER use them?

DP

**gopro** · 08-06-2002, 07:00 AM

And there's the answer....

Robboe · 08-06-2002, 10:08 AM

What would your 'superheavy' routines look like then?

(and not yet i haven't, no).

Dr. Pain · 08-06-2002, 09:55 PM

Close parallel, or wide Parallel Chins BW to W/U

Hammer strength pulldown 1,2,3, maybe 3.5 or 4 plates per side...grip above the handles on the machine itself...wider 10, 8, 6, 6

Reverse grip bent BB row 10/135, 8/185, 7/225, 6/275

Seated cable, V-bar 10/180, 8/240, 8/270, 8-15/300

RDLs or Rack Pulls from below the knee 135/10, 225/8. 315/8. 405/8 on a good day Rack pulls 495/8

Do you need kilo conversion?

DP

Dorian · 08-07-2002, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
[b]

Do you need kilo conversion?

DP

thought it was

Robboe · 08-07-2002, 10:54 AM

Nah, i'm used to switching between kilos and lbs enough these days to hazard a guess.

I wasn't so much curious about the weights you use as much as the general volume.

Claudette · 09-04-2002, 05:50 PM

Umm, what's: 4a Seated BB good morning in the cage (safety bars)

I know what a good morningis, but not this version...

Also, what if my gym doesn't have a T-bar row, what's a good alternative?
Thanks!

Dr. Pain · 09-04-2002, 06:45 PM

Same as a good morning but on the edge of a bench. As you bend foward..the supports act as a lower limit and safety!...Arch and contract the erectors as you rise.

You can simulate a T-bar row by placing one end of a barbell in a corner or crevice, and using the V-bar attachment as a handle!

DP

**Mudge** · 09-04-2002, 06:47 PM

Probably the same but seated, in the cage you'd be protected if you collapsed.

I want a T bar too

**Jodi** · 05-23-2003, 07:35 AM

Bump for Brad

08-01-2002, 01:04 PM	#1
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Today's Back! BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Disclaimer: NOT a beginner W/O. use this for ideas, and a fun time! All Super, Tri, and Giant sets, rest only after the last exercise, interval stated. ALL w8's pyramided unless noted, EACH set! Upper Back 1a Wide Grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6 reps 1b Reverse grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6 reps 60 sec RI 2a Narrow Parallel grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6 reps 2b Wide Parallel grip pulldowns 8, 8, 7, 6, reps 60 second RI Middle Back 3a BB T-bar Rows 8, 8, 7 reps 3b Reverse grip BB bent rows 8, 8, 7, reps 3c Seated cable rows, narrow neutral grip 8, 8, 7, reps 3d One arm bent DB rows, knee on bench 8, 8 ,7 reps 120 sec RI Lower Back' 4a Seated BB good morning in the cage (safety bars) 10, 10, 10 reps 4b Swiss ball reverse hypers 12, 12, 12 reps last set w8 between the ankles 4c W8ed hyperextension 12, 12, 12 reps 120 sec RI DP

08-01-2002, 01:10 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Gee whiz, looks deadly!
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08-02-2002, 08:15 AM	#4
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,477	Yup...definitely a DP workout. Thanks for the disclaimer!
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08-02-2002, 11:37 AM	#5
arbntmare StudentDentistTeethPuller Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 309	sounds like a killer... gopro what is your lighter version?
	No Pain, No Gain

08-04-2002, 07:10 AM	#6
twarrior Male-37 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 132 Photos: 3	Wow! What a back workout. I think I'm going to give this a shot. I do about half of this and no lower back, ( I know... it's bad...). Instead of the DB rows, I bring a bench over to the cable machine and use cable rows in the same fashion as a DB row. I can't hang on to the DB for the weight I'm using. I know I'm opening the door here , but any exercise to strengthen grip???? Whacking it is outr of the question..
	Weight lifting is like " Mind over Matter". If my body doesn't mind---the weight doesn't matter!!!!!

08-01-2002, 02:33 PM	#3
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Before ya'll ask....here's a lighter version It's what I did today 1. NG Chins 3 sets, 5, 4, 3... 120 Sec RI, about a 20 sec eccentric on the last rep of each set. 2. Plate loaded rows 4 sets, 10, 8, 6, 6...120 sec RI 3. Lat Pulldown 3 sets, 10, 8, 5 ...120 sec RI 4a. Cable Rows, V-Bar 3 sets, 10, 8, 6....RI 90 sec 4b. T-Bar Rows 3 sets, 10, 8, 8...90 sec RI, 5. W8ed Hypers 3 sets, 15, 12, 8...60 sec RI

08-04-2002, 09:25 AM	#8
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	I can hang on to 115 for 15 reps for dumbell shrugs, I'm not using anywhere near that for dumbell rows.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

08-05-2002, 08:56 AM	#13
mesomorphin' Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: gaithersburg, maryland Posts: 570	Nice workout! I've added this to my to do list!
	There's one way to find out....

08-06-2002, 05:11 AM	#15
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	DP, do you do workouts like this every time you step into the gym?
	Being held down by The Man

08-06-2002, 07:00 AM	#18
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,477	And there's the answer....
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

08-06-2002, 10:08 AM	#19
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	What would your 'superheavy' routines look like then? (and not yet i haven't, no).
	Being held down by The Man

08-06-2002, 09:55 PM	#20
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Heavy? Close parallel, or wide Parallel Chins BW to W/U Hammer strength pulldown 1,2,3, maybe 3.5 or 4 plates per side...grip above the handles on the machine itself...wider 10, 8, 6, 6 Reverse grip bent BB row 10/135, 8/185, 7/225, 6/275 Seated cable, V-bar 10/180, 8/240, 8/270, 8-15/300 RDLs or Rack Pulls from below the knee 135/10, 225/8. 315/8. 405/8 on a good day Rack pulls 495/8 Do you need kilo conversion? DP

08-07-2002, 10:54 AM	#22
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Nah, i'm used to switching between kilos and lbs enough these days to hazard a guess. I wasn't so much curious about the weights you use as much as the general volume.
	Being held down by The Man

09-04-2002, 05:50 PM	#23
Claudette Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	Umm, what's: 4a Seated BB good morning in the cage (safety bars) I know what a good morningis, but not this version... Also, what if my gym doesn't have a T-bar row, what's a good alternative? Thanks!

09-04-2002, 06:45 PM	#24
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Same as a good morning but on the edge of a bench. As you bend foward..the supports act as a lower limit and safety!...Arch and contract the erectors as you rise. You can simulate a T-bar row by placing one end of a barbell in a corner or crevice, and using the V-bar attachment as a handle! DP

09-04-2002, 06:47 PM	#25
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22,966 Photos: 1	Probably the same but seated, in the cage you'd be protected if you collapsed. I want a T bar too
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

05-23-2003, 07:35 AM	#26
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,179 Photos: 1	Bump for Brad
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