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    Quote Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
    Very true. My shoulders, traps, chest, and legs grow like freaking weeds but my arms and back refuse to cooperate.
    I hear ya, my arms and legs are stubborn.. genetics are a bitch haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorcycled00d View Post
    I hear ya, my arms and legs are stubborn.. genetics are a bitch haha.

    Ben dur - What works for "everyone?" There is no one way to lift. There are endless styles and techniques of training, but there isn't a way that works for "everyone" because each person is different. Each person must tailor their routine to themselves, and stick with what works for THEM. The only way to achieve this is to try different things.
    What works for "everyone" are the basic tenets of human physiology.

    There are differences between an individual's recovery abilities, energy requirements, proportion of fiber types, number of cellular mitochondria etc etc, but biology is biology.

    There is no way around the fact that compound movements recruit the most muscle, thus elicit a greater hormonal response, and hence have the potential to produce more growth.

    Not sure if thats what you're arguing against, but its still true, lol.
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    the difference between an olympian, and a couch potato is very small

    the training methods required to improve their abilities may differ depending on there goals

    but the biggest differences will be

    intensity
    duration
    recovery time

    everyone is different
    but we are more similar than different



    compound lifts work for everyone
    based on my experience/observations/research
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    I think i saw a study somewhere that proposed elite level athletes had way more mitochondria than non-elite level athletes, i'll see if i can dig it out.
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    I'm not arguing anything.

    I'm saying everyone is different. Some get good results with all compounds, and some get better results with a mix. Some get good results lifting 2 times a week, and some lifting 5. Lift however you guys want, if isolations don't work for you then don't. I couldn't care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    I think i saw a study somewhere that proposed elite level athletes had way more mitochondria than non-elite level athletes, i'll see if i can dig it out.

    im very interested..
    unless your yanking my chain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben dur View Post
    im very interested..
    unless your yanking my chain
    Well this was one of the ones i read, i can't find the main one i was talking about, it may not have been on the web but in a paper journal at uni or something.

    SpringerLink - Journal Article

    "An abundance of subsarcolemmal mitochondria located close to the capillaries, efficient capillary proliferation between fibres where sharing can occur and greater relative distribution and size of type I fibres are, collectively, efficient characteristics of extreme endurance training."

    Not as cool as i made it out to be, but still interesting, lol.
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    the wording suggest that this is a result of their training methods

    my argument still holds
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