Deadlifts make you thick?

**Built** · 04-20-2009, 01:52 PM

I do mine chest-supported, and I lift as heavy as I can while throwing the weight around kinda like a t-bar powerclean.

I love 'em that way.

**T_man** · 04-20-2009, 02:00 PM

isn't there a difference between what you love and what you should do??

im not saying it shouldnt be done that way im just saying it cant be justified just because you love it that way

**Built** · 04-20-2009, 02:04 PM

I love 'em because they feel good that way, and they WORK that way.

Rows just seem to work better done a little dirty.

**Built** · 04-20-2009, 02:16 PM

This guy explains it well:

Good Form - How To Maximize Muscle Growth With Every Rep!
Maximum muscle growth comes through maximum muscle stimulation with a full range of motion.

In turn, maximum muscle stimulation means lifting the heaviest weight you can handle with good form. Good form can make the difference between big time gains and NO gains. BUT….

Let me make this clear - Strict form is NOT good form.

Your personal trainer won’t agree with me on this one. In fact, many ‘Experts’ will have you do your barbell curls with your back flat against a wall throughout the movement. This ensures that you don’t ‘Cheat’.

Ok, there’s cheating as in using more momentum to move a weight than actual muscle force. But, there’s also cheating as in cheating yourself out of potential gains.

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**C6zo6** · 04-20-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Built

This guy explains it well:

Agreed 100%

**T_man** · 04-20-2009, 03:02 PM

I just dont wanna rupture a disc in my spinal column thats all. I have a weak lower back anyways and anything that has a decent risk of injuring the lower back I make sure it is unlikely to happen. I'd rather injure any other part of my body... xcept my neck

**T_man** · 04-20-2009, 03:07 PM

Oh btw when you do those rows it's intended for the back isnt it?
The guy is talking about un-strict form yet un-sloppy form. The way he's talking about it is just a gentle rock, not a tossing of the weight using the torso.

Sorry to quote you on this Built

Originally Posted by Built

but for bent over rows and t-bars, I honestly prefer a sloppy form

The guy says:

Remember:
* Don’t get sloppy

Sorry

<3 u still

**Built** · 04-20-2009, 03:16 PM

Yeah, we've described it differently but the meaning is the same: put a little momentum into it. For rows, that IS good form.

**ZECH** · 04-20-2009, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by T_man

I just dont wanna rupture a disc in my spinal column thats all. I have a weak lower back anyways and anything that has a decent risk of injuring the lower back I make sure it is unlikely to happen. I'd rather injure any other part of my body... xcept my neck

In the same boat you are.

**ZECH** · 04-20-2009, 04:25 PM

Lever (T-bar) Bent-over Row

**Ngordyn** · 04-20-2009, 06:38 PM

I agree 100% i use a slight rock as well

**C6zo6** · 04-20-2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by T_man

Oh btw when you do those rows it's intended for the back isnt it?
The guy is talking about un-strict form yet un-sloppy form. The way he's talking about it is just a gentle rock, not a tossing of the weight using the torso.

He is implying it the same way she described.

Built isn't claiming she alters form entirely, just more than usual to get full range of motion. Hence, better gains.

**juggernaut** · 04-20-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by P-funk

a) diet

b) hope for great genetics to have a small waist

c) stop obsessing about things like that and get in the gym and lift.

patrick

what he said^^

however, it has been said that if you use a wider grip when deadlifting, it emphasizes the lat area. I do feel this to be true, especially from experience.

**juggernaut** · 04-20-2009, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Built

Nothing wrong with your routine, C6zo6 - it's clearly time to increase your calories, though. Try adding a bit of olive oil to your shakes. If you add an ounce of olive oil to each of two shakes a day, it's an easy 500 calories.

homeostasis is such a bitch!!

**Tank316** · 04-20-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Built

I love 'em because they feel good that way, and they WORK that way.

Rows just seem to work better done a little dirty.

Ummm.....

Well, I have to admit, I love dirty rows too!

**Built** · 04-20-2009, 10:19 PM

They rock. In a big, meaty way.

**T_man** · 04-21-2009, 09:23 AM

Cmon a slight rock isnt sloppy form though is it

Homeostasis is infact a bitch juggernaut. But the bitch that's keeping you alive when you go out in the hot/cold, when you run and when you're in extreme environments

Might try those wide grip deadlifts. I wanna work on my lats.

**juggernaut** · 04-21-2009, 09:43 AM

I piss on homeostasis!!! I kill it dead!!

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