Excuse my bump, but I wanted to bring it up before it gets relegated to page 2.
I haven't put my routine up for assessment so I figured it would be nice to do it. My diet is in check for now...I have a thread floating around somewhere in the D&N section for details. As of the middle of April, I was 286lbs 24%BF. I'm down about 11lbs since then, so thats nice. I've been doing the same routine more or less for about 2 years with steady gains since I started. I'm happy with my gains, but i'm looking on input on any exercises that I'm missing out on or could be throwing in or mixing up rep ranges...things of that nature.
Cardio: Started really doing scheduled cardio when I started changing my eating habits. I'm doing HIIT 2-3 days a week on rest days and steady state after each lifting day.
Stretching: I do what P-Funk and CowPimp have posted up.
Day 1
Flat BB Bench (5x5)
Incline BB Bench (3x8)
Cable Crosses ( 2x10) {I feel like this is an exercise that I can replace for something more effective}
I usually pick two of these exercises and go 2x10
Closed Grip Bench Press, skull crusher, tricep pulldowns, tricep extensions
Dips (2x8)
Day 2
Chins or wide grip pullups (2x8)
Standard Deadlifts or RDLs (5x5)
Lat Pulldowns (3x8)
DB Bent over row (2x10)
T-bar Rows or seated row (2x10)
For bicep iso, I do seated individual arm preachers (each arm by 10), then i superset to seated barbell preachers (8-10) then i stand up and dropset to barbell curls and i'm usually out after about 5 reps. I do that 3 times.
Day 3
Back squats (5x5)
Good mornings (3x8)
45degree Leg press or seated individual leg press (2x8)
Lying Leg Curl (2x10--I like the variety in which you lift with both legs and then lower with one leg, alternating legs per rep)
Sometimes glute-ham raises
Calf Raises (3x10)
Day 4
Standing Military Press (3x8)
Clean and Press (3x6)
Hang Cleans ( 2x8)
OlyBar Corner Presses (3x8)
I pick one of these two supersets
a)Arnold presses + lateral raises
b)Lateral Raises + Front Raises + overhead press
Two sets of various forearm stuff
I've been reading about hamstring vs quad dominant leg exercises on different days, but this is what i'm doing for now. I didnt really mention particular core exercises...I feel like I do adequate core strengthening in my warmup.
I'm up for any critique and down to try any ideas.
Excuse my bump, but I wanted to bring it up before it gets relegated to page 2.
I'd try and be more specific with your program. It is all over the map with regard to exercises, sets and reps, and focus. The day 4 is weird! Why shoulder press and then clean and press and then hang cleans? First of all, the cleans should be first in the workout if you are going to do them due to their technical difficulty and need for greater rate of force development. Second everything on that day is totally redundant! It is a big waste of time IMO. Your are very imbalanced between push and pull.
I am not understanding the set up at all. It is sort of like "I hear squats at 5x5 are good, I heard that cleans are good, and I think some bench press is fine, maybe I'll do a couple sets of chin ups too." None of it makes sense. It is like you just read about a variety of different things and tried to put them all into a program at once.
patrick
Optimum Sports Performance
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
-Buddha's Little Instruction Book
I don't disagree, this is pretty spot on. I've been taking lot of what people like McDonald and Thibadeau have been writing, and paired with the critiques of various board members on other routines, this is what I've been using for the last year or so. I guess it's an issue of over analysis.
I'm interested in UD 2.0 for when I drop the weight. However, does anyone any specific recommendations?
If you are going to do UD2.0, then stick with Lyle's recommendations for training.
Also, you are correct, it is paralysis by analysis. You are not the only one who does this. You need to make things more simple.
patrick
Optimum Sports Performance
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
-Buddha's Little Instruction Book
Lyle mentions that he's a fan of Mark Rippetoe's "Practical Programming". Once I have perused the book, I'll probably go with the 5x5 until I get down to the BF% range that Lyle recommends for UD2.0.
In terms of Lyle's direct recommendations and diet, I feel like going with the keeping it simple concept. With Built's help, I got steady fat loss going, so I'm just going to stick with what I'm doing until I get stuck.
This sound good?


It does.
It is so easy to keep a routine fresh - just changing from straight sets to antagonist pairs can do it. Or varying the rep ranges a little, or the workout order. I honestly feel there's more room for variation when you're bulking than when you're cutting. Cutting you just keep it heavy and short, and starve off the fat.![]()
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