Use of Gloves

m11 · 05-08-2009, 08:09 PM

This excerpt is from Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength

"Gloves have no place in a serious training program. A glove is merely a piece of loose stuff between the hand and the bar, reducing grip security and increasing the effective diameter of the bar. Gloves make bars harder to hold on to. The only legitimate use for a glove is to cover an injury, like a torn callus or a cut, where the workout is important enough to do with the injury. The desire is to prevent callus formation (possibly so as to not snag one's pantyhose) does not constitute a legitimate use."

A caveat is that he recommends chalk use, which isn't allowed in many gyms.

Thoughts?

Matrick · 05-08-2009, 08:18 PM

I agree with him, I never use gloves unles I had a cut and was going to train in a dirty gym. there is liquid chalk that is allowed everywhere.

Patrick_01 · 05-08-2009, 09:28 PM

Whatever your priorities are. Mine's soft hands, so I'll always use gloves.

vader · 05-08-2009, 10:18 PM

I never use gloves

**Built** · 05-09-2009, 12:34 AM

I pull the chick card and wear gloves. I hate training without 'em.

Bradicallyman · 05-09-2009, 03:34 AM

I use gloves, only because that is what I am used to. The first thing i did when I started lifting weights 5 years ago was buy a pair of gloves. Now it feels weird whenever I forget them.

**Gazhole** · 05-09-2009, 06:12 AM

Used to train with gloves all the time, but the sessions i forgot to bring them sucked because my hands hurt. Stopped taking them after that, it was painful for a little while but at least after that it wasn't a problem anymore.

Scarface30 · 05-09-2009, 09:12 AM

I used them for the first little while when I started lifting. But then like was mentioned in the blurb, found that my grip without gloves>>grip with gloves.

nkira · 05-09-2009, 09:55 AM

I have to use gloves other wise I get Calluses.....

Moondogg · 05-09-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nkira

I have to use gloves other wise I get Calluses.....

Built can get away with that excuse, you can't. Pussy.

plums_jp · 05-09-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nkira

I have to use gloves other wise I get Calluses.....

lol...thats what your teeth are for...chew em off

vader · 05-09-2009, 10:10 AM

haha, I have done that

nkira · 05-09-2009, 10:13 AM

alright alright I know.....

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Originally Posted by plums_jp

lol...thats what your teeth are for...chew em off

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moondogg

Built can get away with that excuse, you can't. Pussy.

david100proof · 05-09-2009, 11:15 AM

I love my gloves they give me a better grip

HialeahChico305 · 05-09-2009, 12:20 PM

I never use gloves, but I gotta admit girls do like soft hands on us guys. oh well

Minhkey · 05-09-2009, 12:45 PM

People at my 24hour fitness wear gloves but at my high school, no one wears gloves in the weight room

vader · 05-09-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HialeahChico305

I never use gloves, but I gotta admit girls do like soft hands on us guys. oh well

women like rough hands

chiquita6683 · 05-09-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vader

women like rough hands

Yeah I dont want a guy to have hands like me.....Id think he was gay or something

Scarface30 · 05-09-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiquita6683

Yeah I dont want a guy to have hands like me.....Id think he was gay or something

lol

that reminds me of a buddy of mine. he bought gloves to go to the gym, and I used to rag on him a lot about it. he's like "well, I don't want rough ass hands when I'm with my girl".. I said "I think she'd think it was kind of gay if your hands were as soft as hers"

he hasn't worn them since.

tatteredsaint · 05-09-2009, 08:40 PM

I wear gloves and I still end up with calluses n rough hands , but have you ever sen someone at the gym that wears gloves but never actually lifts a weight , there are 2 at my gym all they do is ab work and run -wierd

Moondogg · 05-09-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tatteredsaint

I wear gloves and I still end up with calluses n rough hands , but have you ever sen someone at the gym that wears gloves but never actually lifts a weight , there are 2 at my gym all they do is ab work and run -wierd

Is that not how you get the perfect body, running to burn all the fat off then ab work to get a HUGE six pack, or if you work hard enough an eight pack.......

**Merkaba** · 05-10-2009, 12:46 AM

Yea fuck that. I wear gloves. Guess I'm just a pussy too. Rubbing on ya girl with a half picked callus? fuck that.

danzik17 · 05-10-2009, 01:02 AM

Half picked? Come on, finish the job pussy.

sexy_animal · 05-11-2009, 08:42 AM

I don't use any lifting aids like straps, gloves, belts, joint wraps, etc... because I feel that they mess up your natural movement mechanics. I also wear only flat soled shoes.

m11 · 05-11-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sexy_animal

I don't use any lifting aids like straps, gloves, belts, joint wraps, etc... because I feel that they mess up your natural movement mechanics. I also wear only flat soled shoes.

I'm a fan of straps. I'm able to deadlift more with them. There's no chance that my grip strength can compare to my posterior chain.

rantorcha · 05-11-2009, 12:01 PM

I use gloves for two reasons - 1) my hands kept getting ripped up because the grips on the bars at my gym are that really granualated, rough metal and 2) the gloves I use have wrist supports and I have had trouble with my wrists in the past.

However, now I use these new things I found called "Lynx Grips". These things are awesome!

sexy_animal · 05-11-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m11

I'm a fan of straps. I'm able to deadlift more with them. There's no chance that my grip strength can compare to my posterior chain.

I have a personal philosophy that the body is only as strong as it's weakest link. I would rather lift less and be a healthy, functional human machine, rather then overload a weak point and risk the inevitable injury.

IMHO, grip is a major component of strength. It's right up there with a strong glute drive, and having a functionally strong core. I really liked the ideas in Pavel's The Naked Warrior.

Moondogg · 05-11-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sexy_animal

I have a personal philosophy that the body is only as strong as it's weakest link. I would rather lift less and be a healthy, functional human machine, rather then overload a weak point and risk the inevitable injury.

IMHO, grip is a major component of strength. It's right up there with a strong glute drive, and having a functionally strong core. I really liked the ideas in Pavel's The Naked Warrior.

Sorry, that’s rubbish.

My take: how on earth would your hands and forearms (very small muscles) be anywhere near as strong as your ENTIRE posterior chain? I’m sure your 'personal philosophy' sounds great in your head (we all have a few of those that we like to cling to, lol) but as with most things we assume, it has flaws

sexy_animal · 05-11-2009, 01:04 PM

I'm not going to argue with you because you're clearly coming from a bodybuilding school of thought, and I'm not. I'm more concerned with what my body can do without the assistance of devices. For example in the MMA if your grip gives out, you're fucked because you can't utilize the rest of your strength.

I also understand that this is a bodybuilding forum, so lets just leave it at that. Like i said, it's a "personal philosophy".

Moondogg · 05-11-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sexy_animal

I'm not going to argue with you because you're clearly coming from a bodybuilding school of thought, and I'm not. I'm more concerned with what my body can do without the assistance of devices. For example in the MMA if your grip gives out, you're fucked because you can't utilize the rest of your strength.

I also understand that this is a bodybuilding forum, so lets just leave it at that. Like i said, it's a "personal philosophy".

I can completely understand this, from my experience your grip will get weaker once you start using straps unless you add extra grip work to your program.

05-08-2009, 08:09 PM	#1
m11 www.liftstrong.com Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: FL Posts: 857	Use of Gloves This excerpt is from Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength "Gloves have no place in a serious training program. A glove is merely a piece of loose stuff between the hand and the bar, reducing grip security and increasing the effective diameter of the bar. Gloves make bars harder to hold on to. The only legitimate use for a glove is to cover an injury, like a torn callus or a cut, where the workout is important enough to do with the injury. The desire is to prevent callus formation (possibly so as to not snag one's pantyhose) does not constitute a legitimate use." A caveat is that he recommends chalk use, which isn't allowed in many gyms. Thoughts?

05-08-2009, 09:28 PM	#3
Patrick_01 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 46	Whatever your priorities are. Mine's soft hands, so I'll always use gloves. H: 5' 11" ____Squat: 95kg ATF W: 72kg _____Bench: 80kg BF: lowish _____Deadlift: 130kg

05-09-2009, 12:34 AM	#5
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	I pull the chick card and wear gloves. I hate training without 'em. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

05-09-2009, 06:12 AM	#7
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 8,003 Photos: 19	Used to train with gloves all the time, but the sessions i forgot to bring them sucked because my hands hurt. Stopped taking them after that, it was painful for a little while but at least after that it wasn't a problem anymore. http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 13/11/09 ***READ THIS FOR TRAINING INFO:*** http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/99879-articles-ironmagazineforums-members.html If you want to win the fight, say "I BELIEVE".

05-09-2009, 09:12 AM	#8
Scarface30 C'Nucked Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 2,104 Photos: 6	I used them for the first little while when I started lifting. But then like was mentioned in the blurb, found that my grip without gloves>>grip with gloves. Warning: Seismic Testing Zone

05-08-2009, 08:18 PM	#2
Matrick Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	I agree with him, I never use gloves unles I had a cut and was going to train in a dirty gym. there is liquid chalk that is allowed everywhere.

05-08-2009, 10:18 PM	#4
vader Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 427 Photos: 9	I never use gloves

05-09-2009, 03:34 AM	#6
Bradicallyman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 222 Photos: 11	I use gloves, only because that is what I am used to. The first thing i did when I started lifting weights 5 years ago was buy a pair of gloves. Now it feels weird whenever I forget them.

05-09-2009, 10:10 AM	#12
vader Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 427 Photos: 9	haha, I have done that

05-09-2009, 11:15 AM	#14
david100proof Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: KANSAS Posts: 45	I love my gloves they give me a better grip

05-09-2009, 12:45 PM	#16
Minhkey Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: U.S.A Posts: 99 Photos: 2	People at my 24hour fitness wear gloves but at my high school, no one wears gloves in the weight room 16yr old. 205 pound. 5'8. Just here to learn bench press 225x6 / Deadlift 185x10 / Squat 205x10 I know, my lift weights are disproportional.. Working on it..

05-09-2009, 08:40 PM	#20
tatteredsaint Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: west virginia Posts: 90 Photos: 1	I wear gloves and I still end up with calluses n rough hands , but have you ever sen someone at the gym that wears gloves but never actually lifts a weight , there are 2 at my gym all they do is ab work and run -wierd

05-10-2009, 12:46 AM	#22
Merkaba "King of Cheat Meals" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sc Posts: 1,625	Yea fuck that. I wear gloves. Guess I'm just a pussy too. Rubbing on ya girl with a half picked callus? fuck that. Ban 2 1/2 's !!!!!! -------------------------------------------- Some Pics. All Natural

05-10-2009, 01:02 AM	#23
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05-11-2009, 08:42 AM	#24
sexy_animal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 134	I don't use any lifting aids like straps, gloves, belts, joint wraps, etc... because I feel that they mess up your natural movement mechanics. I also wear only flat soled shoes. MySpace Cutting Log

05-11-2009, 12:01 PM	#26
rantorcha Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 113	I use gloves for two reasons - 1) my hands kept getting ripped up because the grips on the bars at my gym are that really granualated, rough metal and 2) the gloves I use have wrist supports and I have had trouble with my wrists in the past. However, now I use these new things I found called "Lynx Grips". These things are awesome!

05-11-2009, 01:04 PM	#29
sexy_animal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 134	I'm not going to argue with you because you're clearly coming from a bodybuilding school of thought, and I'm not. I'm more concerned with what my body can do without the assistance of devices. For example in the MMA if your grip gives out, you're fucked because you can't utilize the rest of your strength. I also understand that this is a bodybuilding forum, so lets just leave it at that. Like i said, it's a "personal philosophy". MySpace Cutting Log

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