How much hcg when taking 500mgs of sus250 for 10weeks?

**Jasonshane** · 03-30-2011, 10:51 AM

Yea guys need some help.how much iu should I take of hcg when on a 10week cycle of sus250?thanks again.at 500mgs a week of sus.

**keith1569** · 03-30-2011, 12:30 PM

personally i dont need hcg with just a 10 week cycle..i coudlnt hurt..but if you did 250 a few times a week would do the job

**Repo** · 03-30-2011, 10:17 PM

With this cycle - I would run 250iu twice a week.

If you decide to add another compound at a later cycle - I would run at 500iu twice a week - this is what I'm running

You can run this up to your pct - and stop four days before commencing SERM.

I make hcg a part of every cycle just like test - you don't want to mess around when it comes to the balls ... "keep them BIG and working."

I've been running Z's hcg with great success - my wife can confirm that.

**ontopthegame85** · 03-31-2011, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Repo

With this cycle - I would run 250iu twice a week.

If you decide to add another compound at a later cycle - I would run at 500iu twice a week - this is what I'm running

You can run this up to your pct - and stop four days before commencing SERM.

I make hcg a part of every cycle just like test - you don't want to mess around when it comes to the balls ... "keep them BIG and working."

I've been running Z's hcg with great success - my wife can confirm that.

This x2

**CobraNinja** · 03-31-2011, 05:24 AM

Sus at x2per week is a good cycle. are u gonna frontload though? the first few weeks u wont use much of the T if u know about the esters/time release at all. im not sayin' it doesnt work, im just curious if u running other faster acting stuff along with it in the 1st 1-3 weeks before the longer esters kick in during the mid weeks. when u say u running 500 of Sus im sure u would love to use all 500 per week, but its not the case becuz of the esters. so i frontload in order to ensure i get close to 500 weekly. im currently running Prop 3 times a week along with Sus x2 weekly.
for more info on how & why running sus250 doesnt mean u are gettin 250 a week read this: Sustanon Dosing - A must read for first time users!

**Jasonshane** · 03-31-2011, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Repo

With this cycle - I would run 250iu twice a week.

If you decide to add another compound at a later cycle - I would run at 500iu twice a week - this is what I'm running

You can run this up to your pct - and stop four days before commencing SERM.

I make hcg a part of every cycle just like test - you don't want to mess around when it comes to the balls ... "keep them BIG and working."

I've been running Z's hcg with great success - my wife can confirm that.

I ran my test cyp with out any hcg which is bad I no.but I had no more hcg.now im paying for it my nuts look so small I hate this.if I start hcg will my babys come back to life lol.

**Jasonshane** · 03-31-2011, 12:00 PM

And on top of that im still on my cyp at 500mgs a week with dbol .im taking hcg drops.my unclez hcg just came in today im so happy.should I max it up on the hcg for my nuts to come back?

**buddhaluv** · 03-31-2011, 12:55 PM

hey jason, how long did you wait for your gear to arrive after shipping?

**Jasonshane** · 03-31-2011, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by buddhaluv

hey jason, how long did you wait for your gear to arrive after shipping?

Cant tell you a T/A on here but domestic verryyyy fast intl a lil longer but not more longer.

**heavyiron** · 03-31-2011, 02:00 PM

500iu HCG twice weekly minimum.

**Repo** · 03-31-2011, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jasonshane

I ran my test cyp with out any hcg which is bad I no.but I had no more hcg.now im paying for it my nuts look so small I hate this.if I start hcg will my babys come back to life lol.

Oh yeah - if it was only test cyp - hcg should work fine ... "I would think."

You see - hcg mimics the LH signal - so what you're doing when you inject hcg - is injecting an exogenous source of counterfeit LH.

This counterfeit LH will signal the testes to produce testosterone.

HCG will also stimulate the pituitary - but we won't go into all the details here.

I recommend stocking up on hch as best as you can - Z's hcg is awesome and is also priced very good as well.

**Jasonshane** · 04-01-2011, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Repo

Oh yeah - if it was only test cyp - hcg should work fine ... "I would think."

You see - hcg mimics the LH signal - so what you're doing when you inject hcg - is injecting an exogenous source of counterfeit LH.

This counterfeit LH will signal the testes to produce testosterone.

HCG will also stimulate the pituitary - but we won't go into all the details here.

I recommend stocking up on hch as best as you can - Z's hcg is awesome and is also priced very good as well.

Yea I got my unclez hcg in the other day.I'm going to start it today.

**Jasonshane** · 04-01-2011, 06:28 PM

Just opened my box of hcg from unclez z and they are not zline what's with that.I swear its hgh same vail same blue top.just with China words all over it.someone help me out.I order zline not China gear

**Repo** · 04-01-2011, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jasonshane

Just opened my box of hcg from unclez z and they are not zline what's with that.I swear its hgh same vail same blue top.just with China words all over it.someone help me out.I order zline not China gear

It's good stuff - I'm not sure about the China words - it's most likely where it's manufactured - but it is very good.

I've been running it with great results - I wouldn't worry about the China writing - Z wouldn't carry it if it wasn't good.

Maybe Z will chime in and give you a better answer.

My wife can confirm - It's been keeping my balls BIG and working just fine!

**Uncle Z.** · 04-02-2011, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Jasonshane

Just opened my box of hcg from unclez z and they are not zline what's with that.I swear its hgh same vail same blue top.just with China words all over it.someone help me out.I order zline not China gear

Hi

We have to change pic at our site....

Before it was also HCG from china but with my labels, now coz I lost my old supplier I found a new one (which is miles better than the last one) but he offer me vials with his labels on it

So it's still HCG and it's still G2G so no worries Bro

z.

**Jasonshane** · 04-02-2011, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Uncle Z.

Hi

We have to change pic at our site....

Before it was also HCG from china but with my labels, now coz I lost my old supplier I found a new one (which is miles better than the last one) but he offer me vials with his labels on it

So it's still HCG and it's still G2G so no worries Bro

z.

perfect that's exactly what I wanted to hear now I know I'm good to go thanks again uncle z

**primo33333** · 05-16-2011, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Repo

With this cycle - I would run 250iu twice a week.

If you decide to add another compound at a later cycle - I would run at 500iu twice a week - this is what I'm running

You can run this up to your pct - and stop four days before commencing SERM.

I make hcg a part of every cycle just like test - you don't want to mess around when it comes to the balls ... "keep them BIG and working."

I've been running Z's hcg with great success - my wife can confirm that.

hey repo... i chatted with Z and he told me the hcg doesnt last more than 10-14 days after reconstituted... i dont know what to do as you know i only purchased 1 5000iu. do be done e4d for 80 (12 week cycle).

now i am hearing from others on the board that it should last 30 days (4-5 weeks) and i should just do 500 iu twice a week on the last 4-5 weeks...
will that have any effect (positive)
im still a little unsure. should i use it towards the end.... or in the middle ,
or do you know for sure that it can last about 3 months in the fridge?
thanx bud

**Chino007** · 05-16-2011, 01:02 PM

500 ui a week

**primo33333** · 05-16-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Chino0823

500 ui a week

how long will it last in the fridge. i only have 5000iu planning to spread over 80 days... now im hearing different. that it doesnt last long...
would love to be able to do it for at least the last 8 weeks 500iu a week. just that i dont know how long it lasts

**Repo** · 05-16-2011, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by primo33333

hey repo... i chatted with Z and he told me the hcg doesnt last more than 10-14 days after reconstituted... i dont know what to do as you know i only purchased 1 5000iu. do be done e4d for 80 (12 week cycle).

now i am hearing from others on the board that it should last 30 days (4-5 weeks) and i should just do 500 iu twice a week on the last 4-5 weeks...
will that have any effect (positive)
im still a little unsure. should i use it towards the end.... or in the middle ,
or do you know for sure that it can last about 3 months in the fridge?
thanx bud

I'm not sure how Z got 14 days - maybe that's not in the fridg?

Yes 500iu twice a week will work very well.

I've been running it exactly like this withe awesome results...

500iu twice a week - (1000iu a week)
Run this until the 5000iu vial runs out (5 weeks)
Take one week off - then repeat.

You could do 500iu a week - which will make your vial last 10 weeks - the worst case is the hcg will not be as potent the last few weeks.

**macaronitony** · 05-17-2011, 07:00 AM

Z sus is supposed to be great

**ordawg1** · 05-17-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by macaronitony

Z sus is supposed to be great

Zgear is all good- best quality- best service- plain and simple-Thanks bro

**primo33333** · 05-17-2011, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Repo

I'm not sure how Z got 14 days - maybe that's not in the fridg?

Yes 500iu twice a week will work very well.

I've been running it exactly like this withe awesome results...

500iu twice a week - (1000iu a week)
Run this until the 5000iu vial runs out (5 weeks)
Take one week off - then repeat.

You could do 500iu a week - which will make your vial last 10 weeks - the worst case is the hcg will not be as potent the last few weeks.

yeah... or even 8 weeks...so i start on week 5-12...
now im getting a response from someone on the board telling me that Z ripped of "quatrillions of people" and has been banned on some boards...
i dont like that. i dont know if he means gear or hcg.... but i hate when people make me second guess... anyway

repo ive been trying to email you and i keep getting a failure...weird...

do you have the hcg from z...just wanna make sure we both have the same kind...z international ...what does yours look like? please...
and where can i get more if needed cheap. and quick. thank you again..

something definetly wrong with email...did you cancel it?

**primo33333** · 05-17-2011, 09:02 AM

he also just started out on this forum and has a rep number 15. so

**primo33333** · 05-17-2011, 09:10 AM

Can I use HCG during cycle and when?
Yes you can, imo to best benefit from HCG is to run it by the last 3-4 weeks of your steroid cycle. Do not run HCG if you're getting signs of gyno, HCG will make it worst, so be careful.

10) How much HCG is needed during cycle and/or pct?
For pct a minimum of 10,000 IU's HCG is needed. When you have a proper pct planned with a serm and an AI, and you want to run HCG during the last 4 weeks of your cycle, then you might only need 5,000iu's.
An anti-estrogen (Nolva, etc.) is to be used with HCG during your last 4 weeks of cycle.

11) What dose do you run HCG at?
HCG is best dosed at 500 IU and/or 1000iu, more than that can cause too much aromatization, and some people won't react to less than 500iu. So during the last 4 weeks of a cycle, you shoot 500 IU of HCG twice a week or 1000 IU once a week. For pct, 500 IU ED or 1000 IU EOD.

**primo33333** · 05-17-2011, 10:11 AM

HCG CYCLES

As regards HCGs use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (PCT), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). The Physicians Desk Reference recommends 500iu/day, as did the late, great, Dan Duchaine. The smaller doses are sufficient enough to begin reversal of testicular atrophy and used in conjunction with nolvade, will help the already present problem of recovery without raising the levels of estrogen to high and increasing the risk of gynecomastia in the user. Lower doses of 250iu to 500iu also avoid the further risk of down regulating LH receptors in the testes. The old saying more is better definitely does not apply to the use of HCG. You dont want to finish PCT after using too much HCG only to find out your back at the beginning again. Your best bet is to start at 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days, and if you dont notice anything happening (nuts dropping and getting bigger) up the dose slightly. Small doses like 500iu two days a week isnt going to cut it like some people think. The only thing small doses of HCG ay be useful (sublingually) for is reducing symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (7). Yeah, thats right, you can probably reduce some symptoms of an enlarged prostate with the use of small doses of HCG.

As stated above the cycles of HCG should be in the 2 to 3 week range with a least one month off in between, you could stretch your cycle out to four weeks without any major concern if you are using lower doses. One should however take care when using HCG as prolonged use could repress the bodys natural production of gonadotropins permanently, but this is mostly just pure speculation as it does not have yet to be reported nor has there been a case of an overdose. To be on the safe side shorter cycles of HCG seem to be that of the norm. Most users cycle HCG near the end of a steroid cycle, you should start your HCG therapy on the last week of your cycle. For best results you should also run nolva while you run HCG as taking HCG by itself will do little to nothing and gyno even though rare may also flair up. Once the HCG cycle is finished you continue with your usual clomid or nolvadex (preferably the latter) for pct as it is more effective when used in conjunction HCG for pct. With an AAS cycle of 6 to 10 weeks HCG may not be necessary unless extreme doses of AAS were used or there is an existing problem of testicular atrophy or you are running a heavy oral only cycle. AAS cycles of 12 or more weeks should have HCG as a part of post cycle plan.

This is why it should always be used with a compound such as nolvadex. So although HCG is essential after long or heavy cycles, it should not be used without an ancillary such as (specifically) nolv. Also HCG therapy should be discontinued at least 2 weeks prior to stopping the use of nolva, or it may suppress natural testosterone itself (5). This should not be a problem if you are running it towards the end of your cycle of AAS and before pct.

MAYBE ITS BEST JUST TO DO 250IU ED for 2-3 weeks leading into pct...nolva during the hcg and in my case...discontinue nolva and begin TOREM/AROMASINE PCT for 4 weeks.
im on test prop/tbol at the end. so quick transition into pct

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