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    Aromasin Alternative

    Hey guys I don't see Aromasin offered on Z's website. What is an alternative for Aromasin? I plan on only using Dbol just to see how my body reacts before I jump into the injectables.

    If I use Dbol for 10 weeks, what should my AI dose and PCT look like? I was thinking clomid+nolva for PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyel56 View Post
    Hey guys I don't see Aromasin offered on Z's website. What is an alternative for Aromasin? I plan on only using Dbol just to see how my body reacts before I jump into the injectables.

    If I use Dbol for 10 weeks, what should my AI dose and PCT look like? I was thinking clomid+nolva for PCT.
    Oh man. These guys are going to jump all over you!!!

    As a disclaimer, I've never used AAS; but, just from hanging out on the forums, I can tell you what they are going to say.

    First, they are going to tell you that an all oral cycle is just plain stupid. Test E, Test C or Test Prop should be the base of every cycle.

    Second, they are going to tell you using Dbol for 10 weeks is retarded; it should be taken for 4 to 6 weeks max.

    Third, they are going to tell you, that for your first cycle, it should be a test only cycle, and that you should forgo the Dbol altogether; this way, you can learn how your body is going to react to test before adding other compounds.

    Lastly, they are going to tell you not to fear injectables; don't be a pussy.

    I think that about covers it.

    P.S. As to your original question, if you don't want to, or can't use aromasin, you can use arimidex. You can find either aromasin or arimidex from several vendors, as either pills or as research chems. You don't need to use Z.
    Last edited by M4A3; 04-21-2011 at 01:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    Oh man. These guys are going to jump all over you!!!

    As a disclaimer, I've never used AAS; but, just from hanging out on the forums, I can tell you what they are going to say.

    First, they are going to tell you that an all oral cycle is just plain stupid. Test E, Test C or Test Prop should be the base of every cycle.

    Second, they are going to tell you using Dbol for 10 weeks is retarded; it should be taken for 4 to 6 weeks max.

    Third, they are going to tell you, that for your first cycle, it should be a test only cycle, and that you should forgo the Dbol altogether; this way, you can learn how your body is going to react to test before adding other compounds.

    Lastly, they are going to tell you not to fear injectables; don't be a pussy.

    I think that about covers it.

    P.S. As to your original question, if you don't want to, or can't use aromasin, you can use arimidex. You can find either aromasin or arimidex from several vendors, as either pills or as research chems. You don't need to use Z.
    I was planning on trying Test C at some point, maybe I should jump right into it. What other vendors are reliable? Please PM it to me. What would you recommend as an alternative if I only use Z as a vendor?

    It is obvious I am new, I need a good ass kicking in knowledge, fire away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyel56 View Post
    I was planning on trying Test C at some point, maybe I should jump right into it. What other vendors are reliable? Please PM it to me. What would you recommend as an alternative if I only use Z as a vendor?

    It is obvious I am new, I need a good ass kicking in knowledge, fire away.
    You aren't allowed to ask about sources on the board. It's one of the forum rules.

    I sent you a pm explaining somethings about aromasin though. I hope it was helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    You aren't allowed to ask about sources on the board. It's one of the forum rules.

    I sent you a pm explaining somethings about aromasin though. I hope it was helpful.

    Real useful stuff thanks a lot. I am glad this forum is very friendly and helpful.. I really want to try the TestC... I am just afraid of the gyno but I guess if these meds do the job then there is nothing to worry about.

    What would you recommend for starters?

    Weeks 1-10
    500mg/2ml of TestC Weekly

    25mg/ml of Aromasin Every other day? I'm not sure how often I should take it.
    or
    .5mg of Arimidex / day since it is cheaper than Aromasin.

    PCT: 3 weeks of 100mg clomid / day & 40mg nolva / day

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyel56 View Post
    Real useful stuff thanks a lot. I am glad this forum is very friendly and helpful.. I really want to try the TestC... I am just afraid of the gyno but I guess if these meds do the job then there is nothing to worry about.

    What would you recommend for starters?

    Weeks 1-10
    500mg/2ml of TestC Weekly

    25mg/ml of Aromasin Every other day? I'm not sure how often I should take it.

    PCT: 3 weeks of 100mg clomid / day & 40mg nolva / day
    Like I said previously, I have no personal experience with this stuff.

    I have read a lot here though, and what I have seen recommended is the following:

    Most seem to recommend starting out with 12.5mg of Aromasin Every Other Day (EOD). If you start to experience sides, you can always adjust up. However, if your dose starts out too high, you will kill too much estrogen in your body, and it will actually be counter productive. Your body needs some estrogen to build muscle and to function properly. Sore joints and lethargy are symptoms of not enough estrogen.

    Most also seem to recommend for a first cycle, 500mg Test C or Test E a week (split up between two injections, 250mg per injection. Sun and Wed for instance.)

    Nova isn't really needed. PCT should be 4 weeks. The split between weeks 1 and 4 would look like this.

    Clomid: clomid 100/100/75/50 (per day)

    You should also continue taking the aromasin into PCT.

    Aromasin: 25/25/12.5/12.5 (per day)

    You may also want to consider taking HCG on cycle, which will help keep your balls from shrinking; this will help you reduce the amount of time to restart your own normal test production during PCT.

    Most seem to recommend taking HCG starting with your first Test injection. HCG should be taken two times per week, 250iu to 500iu per injection. Most seem to say 250iu 2 times per week.
    Last edited by M4A3; 04-21-2011 at 02:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    Like I said previously, I have no personal experience with this stuff.

    I have read a lot here though, and what I have seen recommended is the following:

    Most seem to recommend starting out with 12.5mg of Aromasin Every Other Day (EOD). If you start to experience sides, you can always adjust up. However, if your dose starts out too high, you will kill too much estrogen in your body, and it will actually be counter productive. Your body needs some estrogen to build muscle and to function properly. Sore joints and lethargy are symptoms of not enough estrogen.

    Most also seem to recommend for a first cycle, 500mg Test C or Test E a week (split up between two injections, 250mg per injection. Sun and Wed for instance.)

    Nova isn't really needed. PCT should be 4 weeks.

    Clomid: 100/75/50/50 (per day)

    You should also continue taking the aromasin into PCT.

    Aromasin: 25/25/12.5/12.5 (per day)

    You may also want to consider taking HCG on cycle, which will help keep your balls from shrinking; this will help you reduce the amount of time to restart your own normal test production during PCT.

    Most seem to recommend taking HCG starting with your first Test injection. HCG should be taken two times per week, 250iu to 500iu per injection. Most seem to say 250iu 2 times per week.
    Good thing I have big balls.
    Is there a reason why you haven't tried this stuff out yourself?

    Thanks for all the info BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyel56 View Post
    Good thing I have big balls.
    Is there a reason why you haven't tried this stuff out yourself?

    Thanks for all the info BTW.
    Yes, I have my reasons. The information available on this board is amazing though, and has been helpful in many ways, beyond just AAS.

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    Whoops. Made a mistake on the dosing for Clomid in PCT. I fixed it in my previous post. It should be

    clomid 100/100/75/50

    Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyel56 View Post
    Hey guys I don't see Aromasin offered on Z's website. What is an alternative for Aromasin? I plan on only using Dbol just to see how my body reacts before I jump into the injectables.

    If I use Dbol for 10 weeks, what should my AI dose and PCT look like? I was thinking clomid+nolva for PCT.
    dbol only cycle for 10wks? good luck lol


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    dbol 10 weeks ed? no Sir!

    as far as AI adex .5 mg per day will do

    pct = adex .5 mg + clmoid 50 mgs per day for 3-4 weeks.


    fav pct here is aromasen + Clomid

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEE151 View Post
    dbol only cycle for 10wks? good luck lol
    Why would you want just Dbol ? Read then read some more and learn. You will get it- no worries. Don't forget to sign up for contest and register at ZBlog with Chino. Luck on ya bro

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    if all you're doing is dbol then .5 every other day will even do. as long as your doses aren't insane which they shouldn't be since you're new to this. but really all you NEED would be nolva. and Z has that. just dose it properly and you're good to go. but you shouldn't be doing ten wks of dbol anyway. unless your goal is to get huge, bloaty, and strong while on it and then lose most of it after. you could end up with some nice gyno though. that's all a buddy of mine ended up with from doing too much dbol for too long. lost some hair also. of course he wasn't using ANY nolva or adex or anything so that's the main reason. i'd be more scared of 10wks of dbol than 16 wks of test c. for sides or anything. just take about 300 to 500 mg of test c a wk with some dbol added for the first 3 wks, take some nolva AS NEEDED while on and then run it properly for pct and you'll be fine. it's your first time. NO NEED to get insane with the doses. my doses are always moderate, and i always like the results and i don't get sides. if it's your first time, just smelling the test c will have you training like the Hulk and fucking like a horse.

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    I would research your PCT more, read up on what each drug will do. I don't like a clomid only PCT, I am going with Nolva with Clomid and the reasons are obvious if you read up. I also think HCG is a tad overkill for a basic starter cycle.

    And just do a Test only cycle. If you have sides you will have no idea what drug is causing it, and then you will have no idea how to stop it.

    More importantly, someone should have asked your stats. If you arent ready (old enough, been working out long enough, have diet in check) you are just going to waste money.

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