Thread: Z suspension question for Z

Originally Posted by murf23

hey Z i asked a question a while back about the test suspension that it looked like oil base and not water ...now my bulk order has just arrived and its not like any suspension ive ever seen ,,,its clear with no white stuff and nuthing to shake up and mix ...can u please explain what exactly this is ?? ive seen and done plenty of suspension and it never looked like this .... thnx bro

Here ya go- not mine- but best explantion I have seen. Came fom oxtail over on EB and I couldn't explain this well :

With my experience of test suspension, the old days and still offered by some pharma's and UGL's, it is water-based, milky and can sometimes clump up, hence the reason to have to shake up before drawing and injecting. However, it has been found over the last couple of decades to be able to "dissolve" testosterone base in certain cosolvents to make it into an actual stable solution as opposed to a "shak'em up suspension". Some UGL's will use ethyl oleate and some will use a combination of ethyl oleate and guaiacol along with the traditional benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate mix. All of these solvents and cosolvents are completely safe for the IM injection in the human body. This route was in response to the painful and difficult injections that water-based injections present. Also, water-based injections can pose a problem with sterility. Once you break the seal and pin from the vial, water-based solutions/suspensions become breeding ground for bacteria, regardless of the amount of benzyl alcohol used to hold it. The use of ethyl oleate or ethyl oleate/guaiacol combo with BA and BB is much safer and far more sterile for longer period of time, so long as sterile injections procedures are used (that goes without saying for any injectable). I hope this helps! oxtail

ya know ordawg i forgot to mention how many fukin problems i had with suspension over the years with the pinz getting clogged in the middle of injecting and the pain , so many times it never really worked out cause of these problems i only remember once having a good experience with suspension and the results were great so i kept trying over and over again and it never workrd out ...so thnx for ur help with that question and i have a feeling this is gonna work out real good this time ...i think with it not getting clogged because of this new mixture i will have great results once again...i will def keep everybody posted

No problem bro- you should get all the results of the older- without the pain.Lots of guys think if there is no pain there is something wrong- not so- but can't blame them for thinking that way !! Luck on ya bro

i only got 10 of em ...hope thats enuff lol

Originally Posted by ordawg1

Here ya go- not mine- but best explantion I have seen. Came fom oxtail over on EB and I couldn't explain this well :

With my experience of test suspension, the old days and still offered by some pharma's and UGL's, it is water-based, milky and can sometimes clump up, hence the reason to have to shake up before drawing and injecting. However, it has been found over the last couple of decades to be able to "dissolve" testosterone base in certain cosolvents to make it into an actual stable solution as opposed to a "shak'em up suspension". Some UGL's will use ethyl oleate and some will use a combination of ethyl oleate and guaiacol along with the traditional benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate mix. All of these solvents and cosolvents are completely safe for the IM injection in the human body. This route was in response to the painful and difficult injections that water-based injections present. Also, water-based injections can pose a problem with sterility. Once you break the seal and pin from the vial, water-based solutions/suspensions become breeding ground for bacteria, regardless of the amount of benzyl alcohol used to hold it. The use of ethyl oleate or ethyl oleate/guaiacol combo with BA and BB is much safer and far more sterile for longer period of time, so long as sterile injections procedures are used (that goes without saying for any injectable). I hope this helps! oxtail

THIS^^^^ ALot of companies are making Suspension with oil now and calling it Test Base!!!! Like what I am using, it's Suspension but it's in oil and they call in TNE and instead it's oil based which makes it hell of alot easier with ED injections.... Anymore questions PM me as I already Pmed you bro....

Originally Posted by murf23

i only got 10 of em ...hope thats enuff lol

LOL - you ONLY got 10!

That's how you do it guys - if you can afford it stock up so your not worried
about running out.

The only problem I have when doing this is ... "I want to take more - when I have more!"

Well done murf - keep us posted!

Originally Posted by Repo

LOL - you ONLY got 10!

That's how you do it guys - if you can afford it stock up so your not worried
about running out.

The only problem I have when doing this is ... "I want to take more - when I have more!"

Well done murf - keep us posted!

Real smart move- stock up so you don't have to worry. Only if you can afford it though and don't use it all up like Repo !! ( LOL)

Lol repo double stacks on cycle. That's why he is a monster I guess.

Originally Posted by ordawg1

Here ya go- not mine- but best explantion I have seen. Came fom oxtail over on EB and I couldn't explain this well :

With my experience of test suspension, the old days and still offered by some pharma's and UGL's, it is water-based, milky and can sometimes clump up, hence the reason to have to shake up before drawing and injecting. However, it has been found over the last couple of decades to be able to "dissolve" testosterone base in certain cosolvents to make it into an actual stable solution as opposed to a "shak'em up suspension". Some UGL's will use ethyl oleate and some will use a combination of ethyl oleate and guaiacol along with the traditional benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate mix. All of these solvents and cosolvents are completely safe for the IM injection in the human body. This route was in response to the painful and difficult injections that water-based injections present. Also, water-based injections can pose a problem with sterility. Once you break the seal and pin from the vial, water-based solutions/suspensions become breeding ground for bacteria, regardless of the amount of benzyl alcohol used to hold it. The use of ethyl oleate or ethyl oleate/guaiacol combo with BA and BB is much safer and far more sterile for longer period of time, so long as sterile injections procedures are used (that goes without saying for any injectable). I hope this helps! oxtail

Good info. I thinks it is so important for people to realize the risk of storing pinned bottles for to long. Bacterial infections due to contaminated bottles can be life threatening. I have treated injection site infections that have required wound vacs from just his problem.

That's what's hard about stocking up...

It reminds me of when I was a kid - sitting in front of the christmas tree - STARING - "wanting to tear into the goods."

Now there's no one there to stop me!