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**Chino007** · 06-03-2011, 05:16 AM

Am at the end of my cycle!! Going into my pct. After my pct I will do blood work to show you guys my test levels are back to normal. Then I will starte z international cutting cycle.
Week
1-8 test p 1ml eod
1-8 mast 1ml Monday and Wednesday
1-3 t Bol 40 mg a day split am pm
3-8 tren a eod
3-8 winny 50 mg Ed split am pm
nov eod 25mg
PCT*
clomid*100/75/75/50

Of course this will have a video log on how I feel injected and eat workouts. This is not a log this is a heads up! Then my next cycle is back to bulking with z euro only. Am trying to build a nice bulking cycle with euro line only. Tell which cycle you like to see or think I should try. Please no Beginners cycles. Will have new video soon.

**M4A3** · 06-03-2011, 05:30 AM

So, between the winny and the Tbol, you're gonna be running orals for 8 straight weeks? I can hear your liver crying from here. LOL.

**D-Lats** · 06-03-2011, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by M4A3

So, between the winny and the Tbol, you're gonna be running orals for 8 straight weeks? I can hear your liver crying from here. LOL.

8 weeks isnt that bad suggested length is six weeks. Also the liver toxicity level od most compounds is really blown out of proportion. Back in the 70s and 80s guys cruiised on d bol lol!

**Chino007** · 06-03-2011, 05:42 AM

Am also taken liv52 I don't if that would help in anyway. Beside who needs liver when you got muscle

**robbiek426** · 06-03-2011, 08:11 AM

Liv52 helps dude. I was running 40mgs of dbol daily for 6 weeks. My liver funtions should have been over 100 but I was only at 70.

It will keep you in between "not so good" and " OMG your liver is hamburger mush"..........
jk youll be golden. Why not adex for on cycle therapy? Just curious. I dont know alot about nolva, I havent really ever had good luck with it. I almost alway run an AI on cycle.
You should check into aromasin to add to your PCT bro, shit works good. Just 12.5 mgs eod, then you wont get all the emotional mood swings everyone talks about with clomid!!!!!!

**Anabolic5150** · 06-03-2011, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

8 weeks isnt that bad suggested length is six weeks. Also the liver toxicity level od most compounds is really blown out of proportion. Back in the 70s and 80s guys cruiised on d bol lol!

I've run it for 14 weeks, now that's stupid. But I limit it to 8 weeks or so now, and take Liv52 plus extra Milk Thistle just to be safe.

**Chino007** · 06-03-2011, 08:34 AM

I heard but I don't know! when on milk thistle with dbol dbol is not as strong any truth to that?

**Chino007** · 06-03-2011, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by robbiek426

you wont get all the emotional mood swings everyone talks about with clomid!!!!!!

Am ok with the emotional it helps with a chick see a small tear drop hugs then am in

Then it also tell the man back off warning about to go ape on you

**NJRiot** · 06-03-2011, 08:39 AM

i usually frontload all my cycles with dbol, but always use milk thistle ed when on any kind of oral .. be kind to your liver its vital to your body!

**Chino007** · 06-03-2011, 08:41 AM

Never used milk just live52

**Anabolic5150** · 06-03-2011, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Chino0823

I heard but I don't know! when on milk thistle with dbol dbol is not as strong any truth to that?

Not that I've ever noticed.

**robbiek426** · 06-03-2011, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Chino0823

Am ok with the emotional it helps with a chick see a small tear drop hugs then am in

Then it also tell the man back off warning about to go ape on you

LOL thats ome funny shit dude.

**ordawg1** · 06-03-2011, 09:08 AM

Drink lots of water !! It works

**Movin_weight** · 06-03-2011, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

8 weeks isnt that bad suggested length is six weeks. Also the liver toxicity level od most compounds is really blown out of proportion. Back in the 70s and 80s guys cruiised on d bol lol!

ya i know a dude who's been cruising on 10mg dbol for like 4mos cuz he can't afford test

**Chino007** · 06-03-2011, 11:41 AM

10mg ?

**Repo** · 06-03-2011, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

8 weeks isnt that bad suggested length is six weeks. Also the liver toxicity level od most compounds is really blown out of proportion. Back in the 70s and 80s guys cruiised on d bol lol!

Absolutely correct about the liver toxicity being blown out of proportion ... "I couldn't agree more!"

Even with a lot of the supplements to help with the liver - for every good recommendation - I've also seen a study proving to show zero results after running tests.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try any liver supplements - however right before you decide to go with one - try looking for proven studies - for every one I was ever about to go with i was able to find studies with zero benefit - other than placebo.

Many of you know I like to push everything to the extreme - but whenever I do this - I always do massive amounts of research - then continue with the proper calculations .

For those of you who follow the "exact" dose on a bottle of aspirin (with caution) - this method isn't for you.

UPDATE - Just noticed robbiek recommends live 52 - it might be promising.

**Movin_weight** · 06-03-2011, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Chino0823

10mg ?

yup... whether it's worth it or not, i dunno? but times are rough I guess. Dude still benches 450 at 5'10'' 215lbs

Of course he could be popping them like pez for all i know

**Movin_weight** · 06-03-2011, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Repo

Absolutely correct about the liver toxicity being blown out of proportion ... "I couldn't agree more!"

Even with a lot of the supplements to help with the liver - for every good recommendation - I've also seen a study proving to show zero results after running tests.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try any liver supplements - however right before you decide to go with one - try looking for proven studies - for every one I was ever about to go with i was able to find studies with zero benefit - other than placebo.

Many of you know I like to push everything to the extreme - but whenever I do this - I always do massive amounts of research - then continue with the proper calculations .

For those of you who follow the "exact" dose on a bottle of aspirin (with caution) - this method isn't for you.

UPDATE - Just noticed robbiek recommends live 52 - it might be promising.

Couldn't agree more, your major worry regarding orals IMO is trashed lipids. Liver supps give some pple piece of mind, which is fine... but i've never really bought into the hype of all these support supplements

**Anabolic5150** · 06-04-2011, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Repo

Absolutely correct about the liver toxicity being blown out of proportion ... "I couldn't agree more!"

Even with a lot of the supplements to help with the liver - for every good recommendation - I've also seen a study proving to show zero results after running tests.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try any liver supplements - however right before you decide to go with one - try looking for proven studies - for every one I was ever about to go with i was able to find studies with zero benefit - other than placebo.

Many of you know I like to push everything to the extreme - but whenever I do this - I always do massive amounts of research - then continue with the proper calculations .

For those of you who follow the "exact" dose on a bottle of aspirin (with caution) - this method isn't for you.

UPDATE - Just noticed robbiek recommends live 52 - it might be promising.

Repo, great post. As many of you know, I am a "more is better" kind of guy. But I've always believed in liver support supps, use Liv52 religiously. It's inexpensive, has some studies to prove its worth, and what harm is there in taking it? None, if it helps, great. If it's just a placebo affect, great too. You can't be too careful with the stuff we do.

**ontopthegame85** · 06-04-2011, 09:16 AM

Why tbol for only three weeks at such a low dose ? I would run Atleast 60 mg ed for 6 weeks it doesn't even kick in to about week 3.Everything else looks good.

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