Synergy #1 - Dbol

**Repo** · 06-15-2011, 10:15 PM

Hey gang,

Here's something you might find interesting.

As a reminder - I was running Test-E at 750 and Tren-E at 400 - after reading some studies, found an advantage to flip-floping the dose - the reason is they are both highly androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptor.

We only have so many receptors - once we fill up the androgen receptor - the rest is waisted - so in this case we want tren to reach more receptors than test.

Once I flip-floped the two I found the "sweet-spot." - now running test at 400 and tren at 800.

Now lets add to the "synergy-effect" with a dash of Dbol.

This is nothing new to many - other than the ratios - and the reason for this post is the synergy within - "these" - ratios.

Just out of a whim - I've decided to add 20mg of Dbol - as I wanted to see what the effect was while running this test and tren ratio.

It's still early to see the full effect, but it seems as if I'm seeing close to the same effect as I did when I ran 50mg Dbol with only test ... "no tren."

The synergy between the three with this "ratio" is beginning to move things fast.

I choose the low dose to avoid the Dbol bloat and the MOON face ... well, the MOON face I got!

I can just imagine the gains running this ratio of test and tren with 50mg of Dbol - which I will do latter in the year.

I did break out the AI a couple days ago to bring the estrogen levels down and is working on reducing the moon face.

By the way the Dbol is Euro-Pharmacies.

**ordawg1** · 06-16-2011, 01:03 AM

Excellent Repo-sometimes " less is more" -IF combos are correct

The " effect" does work

**Chino007** · 06-16-2011, 04:45 AM

Should we use the ratio with testp and ten a?

**robbiek426** · 06-16-2011, 05:32 AM

Great read bro, thanks for the info!

**IRONATHLETE** · 06-16-2011, 07:55 AM

how is your libido?

**Chino007** · 06-16-2011, 08:09 AM

hummmm why you want know hummm

**Chino007** · 06-16-2011, 08:10 AM

jk bro

**IRONATHLETE** · 06-16-2011, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Chino0823

hummmm why you want know hummm

just want to know because normally people would run the test at higher dosages to not have low libido.

**Chino007** · 06-16-2011, 08:13 AM

ah i see

**tony56** · 06-16-2011, 03:59 PM

Great post Repo!

I will keep that in mind the next time I run test and tren.

**Repo** · 06-16-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Chino0823

Should we use the ratio with testp and ten a?

I would think this would work just as good with Tren-A as long as the test to tren ratio's are proper.

Originally Posted by IRONATHLETE

how is your libido?

The libido is working at its best.

Tren is very androgenic so it wont inhibit your libido ... "it will actually increase it."

This was my first question as well - what is the effect on the libido.

With my tren at 800 I could actually bring my test to 300 - but I'm running it at 400 - this ratio seems to be smoooooothest!

**IRONATHLETE** · 06-16-2011, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Repo

I would think this would work just as good with Tren-A as long as the test to tren ratio's are proper.

The libido is working at its best.

Tren is very androgenic so it wont inhibit your libido ... "it will actually increase it."

This was my first question as well - what is the effect on the libido.

With my tren at 800 I could actually bring my test to 300 - but I'm running it at 400 - this ratio seems to be smoooooothest!

Interesting might try this out next cycle. I've done tren ace but always with the test being higher dosage

**D-Lats** · 06-16-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by IRONATHLETE

Interesting might try this out next cycle. I've done tren ace but always with the test being higher dosage

Im runnig tren a and test 1:1 and have no isssues. I always ram test higher but Repo got me thinkin.

**Repo** · 06-16-2011, 08:56 PM

The nice thing about tren is that it's highly androgenic and highly anabolic - however it does not aromatize - which is nice with estro sides.

I think this is a big part in why I feel it's a clean and smooth cycle - even while running tren at 800.

This biggest part to look at IMO is that they (test & tren) - "compete" - for the same androgen receptors.

Remember tren will give you more dry lean and vascular look - so we want tren to attach to more receptors than test.

**OldSchoolLifter** · 06-25-2011, 08:48 PM

Hows this going REPO, and updates, I have finally decided what my cycle is going to be, Im blasting now, but with no structure as I have been crusing for a while, so once some other gear came in I got over excited! lol

Here is my plan, taking into consideration the battle for receptors.

1-4 Test Prop 75mg/ed (subQ)
4-9 50mg dbol/ed (50mg caps)
1-16 Test E 600mg/wk
1-12 Tren E 800mg/wk
11-17 50mg Var/ed
1-infinite 12.5mg Aromasin/eod

After week 16 back to cruising dose

20mg/halo pre workout

I have provirion and winstrol, but I dont think it has a place on this blast

**ordawg1** · 06-26-2011, 12:51 AM

When ya get back to your cruise- try 20 mg var- and 25-50 proviron and watch the effect. It might surprise you.Smart move on the prop

**OldSchoolLifter** · 06-26-2011, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by ordawg1

When ya get back to your cruise- try 20 mg var- and 25-50 proviron and watch the effect. It might surprise you.Smart move on the prop

Hehe I learned that prop move from an old horny guy!

I would really like to try that 20mg/50mg var/prov and see the effects, I know you talk a great deal about it.

May need to do that, would it be beneficial at all on a blast compared to a cruise?

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