Thread: What is an Ideal for a first cycle?

This thread kinda of Build from Stonecolds Sticky re Test study doses;
300mg vs 600mg of testosterone - Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums - Steroidology

All you need for the below cycle is:
2 bottles of Sustanon: http://unclez.net/sustanon-250mgml-1...3f4d34bfb40433
2 packers of Dbol: http://unclez.net/methanabol-10mgtab...3f4d34bfb40433

PCT:
http://unclez.net/pregnyl-5000-iuamp-p-170.html
http://unclez.net/proviron-25mgtab-t...nal-p-196.html
http://unclez.net/clomid-50mgtab-tab...nal-p-193.html



Hope you enjoy:

1:
Be above the age of 25
Why?
Because this is when a typical males Testosterone level starts to "stagnate"

2:
Before you cycle make sure you have used KEY supps to the maximum efficacy.
What does this mean?
It means using creatine; at least 5-10 grams a day for several "2-3 months cycles"
It means using glutamine a day everyday
It means having at least 2 protein shakes a day on top of a great solid food based diet.


3:
Before you cycle make sure to have at least trained for 2-3 years at your peak natural level.
Not just lifting, you should have a level of cardio endurance as well.
Only then can you truly assess what you are capable of, and only then will supra-physiological doses of Anabolics tap in to what you are truly capable of genetically.

4:Now that your ready to do a first cycle, what should your first exotic stack be?
"Ta heck with you and your stacks".......Use Test only! ( either Enathate , Cyp or Sus)
You want to give your body every possible advantage when you cycle, and knowing how you respond to the KING hormone will teach you alot when you want to utlize more compounds later.
Test is always the base of any advanced cycle anyway to preserve sexual function .

MOST important ; Test only cycles are the easiest to recover from since its easier to balance the endocrine system, gauge sides, and also you don't have to fight other more suppressive metabolites lingering around ( ex Deca) when you near Post Cycle Therapy


5:
How much should I use and how long?
Sorry the 200's wont do!
Why use just barely more then HRT doses?
Use at least 350 mgs and up to 600 mgs a week.
Why?
Sorry gentlemen you need to be a double version of your self you get double the gains.
Use alot of Test but no so much where you get excessive E conversion and need to Eat AI's like pez, or to the point when you feel like a marshmallow.


6: How Long is my cycle and what about an Oral Kickstart?

Cycle should be no less then 8 weeks long, and no more then 9-10 weeks...
9 is ideal ( plus remember you still have a good week to 10 days of high plasma T levels till they drop for PCT...... so in reality its a 10 week cycle or 10.5 to be precise...
You get huge gains but also can recover real well for P.C.T with the guide lines just given.

Oral kick-start I hate to say DOES maximize this Basic yet highly effective cycle.
Use Dbol, Tbol first 4-5 weeks. Some do use Var as well though its not ideal.

Why ORALS ? Orals are bioaviable immediately and unlock the abilities of your body to build muscle ASAP and you dont have to wait 4-5 weeks for the Test E or Sus or CYP to kick in to a level where you can start to feel like your actually on a cycle..
You feel ON from day one! and Gains start at week 1.


7: P.C.T is as important as the cycle.

You need a Serm, and an AI for sure, And also using some Pro T supps can help.
Supps like Trib, Fadogia, Fengugreek etc can be highly effective in some.
Start using them 10 days after Last Shot when T levels begin to fall from the injectables your doing.
Use them for 3-4 weeks to close the Feedback loop and force your body to kickstart its own endogenous production.
Also you wont get Fat in P/C/T since E will be covered and passively Cortisol

Heavy Irons PCT is the best I have seen to date here:

Post Cycle therapy

I strongly believe that an AI should be used as long as there is an aromatizing compound being administered. In this case Testosterone and HCG aromatize therefore using an AI until these meds clear and a few weeks longer is what I am recommending. There is some evidence that adding Nolva to an AI does not increase the effectiveness of estro control therefore Nolva has no real advantage alongside an AI unless one is experiencing gyno. Additionally Nolva has been shown to reduce IGF-1 and GH levels when used alone. This is not a big deal on cycle as testosterone increases IGF-1 in a dose dependant relationship. However off cycle this is a problem. PCT is a fragile time and lower IGF-1 and GH levels is not desirable. I am recommending an AI that is specific to men that can be used on cycle and during PCT. It is my conclusion that Aromasin is the obvious choice.

I recommend the following PCT protocol for esters like Cypionate and Enanthate;

Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your testes are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG eod.)

100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3)

20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)

3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses

10g creatine daily

The HCG is administered BEFORE the ester clears to increase the mass of the testes and bring back ITT levels. This will allow the testes to sustain output of testosterone sooner.

Clomid is universally accepted as THE testosterone recovery tool. It blocks estrogen from the HPTA and stimulates the production of GNRH then initiates the production of LH, which in turn signals the testis (if not atrophied) to produce testosterone.

Aromasin or a similar aromatase inhibitor is for testosterone recovery and it is used to keep the testosterone/estrogen balance in favor of testosterone. It is also helps to keep any additionally occurring estrogen from HCG low to none.

Cortisol is catabolic. It is the enemy of all anabolism and must be kept in check. While it is blocked when under the influence of AAS, it is free to attach to the Anabolic Receptors (AR) once the steroids leave. Due to this blockage Cortisol tends to accumulate and increase when on. A low level is desirable however since it is important for other vital functions such as control of inflammation. Balance is the key. Vitimin C keeps the exercise induced rise of Cortisol in check.

The use of Creatine has shown to increase ATP metabolism and cellular water storage among many other things. This is beneficial because it provides for heightened nutrient storage and a slight increase in anabolism as well as workout stamina.


My pct has Proviron Since Heavies Aromasen is not available yet, Aromasen would be ideal

I dont feel Nolvadex is appropriate in pct

Great post!! Good read, thank you