Thread: Why is Z's winstrol kicking my ass?

Originally Posted by flexxthese

This is my first time with winstrol depot but I didn't expect it to feel like this. EVERY time I pin it (1cc ED) it annihilates that muscle. It feels fine going in (minus the serious clogging issues), but maybe an hour later it feels like I used a pair of scissors to make a hole and pour the gear in. Doesn't matter what muscle either, i've tried em all and same reaction. My right thigh and left delt I haven't been able to pin for three weeks now they have been that sore. Just this week they have been feeling better and I can't feel the pain unless i'm lifting.

I've shot prop and i currently shoot test e/suspension and eq eod. no issues ever. I haven't had any issues the entire cycle (which i'm almost done with) until I added the winstrol. I know it has nothing to do with my pinning or sterility related to because i'm not and have not ever had issues with any of the other gear. So it's def the gear. Is it just my body is a bitch about winstrol d, or did I get a bad batch or what? This is making me very unmotivated and i'm probably just going to can the stuff.

Injectable winstrol just plain hurts some times, Keep in mind it is much stronger than oral winstrol.

You could even inject EOD and still experience great results from it, if you would like to cut down on pinning.

The guy I am training with uses Z's Winstrol Depot with no issues besides clogging and slight soreness., But with most water based suspesions you will run into that.

Winstrol is a solid in a suspension form therefore it irritates the muscle. I find that oed injections help and I stay away from delts and biceps, glutes are more tolerable for me. I just finnished a Winny run, 6 weeks almost all glutes, and I still have small areas that are still sore. I mixed mine with test - c in the same pin and it seemed to help as well. Winstrol suspension is just tough and for the price you pay for your blood lipids being affected, I just use this for short finnishing runs.

is it water base?

Originally Posted by Chino0823

is it water base?

Yes it is bro!!!!! Anything with water as it's base is going to have a PIP!!!!! Some worse than others but you will always know when you pinn anything water based. But anyway Z's Winny treated me fine, a little bit of PIP but all was goodie bro. Try EOD as others suggested and maybe that will help, and also try injecting into larger muscles as they might be able to handle it more!!!!

As everybody stated, water based suspensions can hurt ALOT.

If you can't tolerate the injections, be aware that still can take it orally. Wistrol depot is still efective if is drunk.

Cheers.

You could always drink your winny if you can't handle ed injections.Not as good as shooting but should still be about 75% effective.

I'll have to try Z's winstrol soon...

I've heard so many good reviews about it.

This will be in an upcoming cycle for sure!

Originally Posted by Repo

I'll have to try Z's winstrol soon...

I've heard so many good reviews about it.

This will be in an upcoming cycle for sure!

Z's Winny is spot on bro!!!! I won 2 free vials of it with the pic contest, and before 1 was even gone I ordered 2 more lol!!!! The PIP wasn't too bad for me but clogging kinda sucked a little bit, but I was using a 25 gauge so it's understandable. I ran it on the back end of my last cycle and it hardened me right up and was a great finisher bro!!!! Let me know when you decide to give it a go!!!!

It could possibly be the veterinary-grade Winstrol with larger micro crystals; hence the clogging. I've pinned the HG grade Winstrol Depot and it slid easily through a 29 gauge slin. Also, pinned ED in delts and zero pain. The HG contains much smaller micro crystals which means less pain and easier pass through smaller finer gauge pins. Veterinary Winstrol D is still gtg but it comes with a "price." Of Course, Z's Winstrol D could be HG and the OP's system just happens to have trouble with aqueous solutions, etc.

Water based - whether winny or suspension can hurt. I truly think that PIP varies from one guy to the next.That is why I prefer oral winny ane test suspension in EO- much - much nicer IMO-Thanks-OD

Z's Winnie was awsome...had the domestic and intl one in oil the other waterbased. Yes it hurts from time to time. I loved it...got a few more or 3 or 4 more vials waiting for me soon.

Originally Posted by BigBird

It could possibly be the veterinary-grade Winstrol with larger micro crystals; hence the clogging. I've pinned the HG grade Winstrol Depot and it slid easily through a 29 gauge slin. Also, pinned ED in delts and zero pain. The HG contains much smaller micro crystals which means less pain and easier pass through smaller finer gauge pins. Veterinary Winstrol D is still gtg but it comes with a "price." Of Course, Z's Winstrol D could be HG and the OP's system just happens to have trouble with aqueous solutions, etc.

Could be something along these lines. I have pinned other water based gears and had no issues what so ever. The amount of pain and localized swelling shows there was something def going on that my body didn't like. I have since discontinued use. The pain would be too much to even work out that body part properly for an entire week or more. That is totally not worth it for me. My bicep for example I shot half a mg (split it up in two shots with some oils to see if it would help) three days ago and I still have trouble lifting even the lightest things. I would rather have pulled the muscle than be dealing with whatever this is. My delts will swell like golf balls in them and be sensitive to even the slightest touch. I could pin my delts bis an tris with oils in a slin and have no issues. So I know it's not a matter of not getting it deep enough. Perhaps my body just doesn't like it, or maybe I just had a bad batch who knows. Like I said, i'll pony up for another vial next cycle just to see if it feels any different. But for now, there's no way I could keep using what I have. Thanks for the input guys!

Winny hurts like a mother(waterbased) What you can try is to combine with another oil that you pin daily... For instance you can take Npp or test prop or anything that you could possibly pin ed... and pin along with the win... this MAY help with PIP... It helps me...

Originally Posted by yerg

Winny hurts like a mother(waterbased) What you can try is to combine with another oil that you pin daily... For instance you can take Npp or test prop or anything that you could possibly pin ed... and pin along with the win... this MAY help with PIP... It helps me...

Yeah I tried that. I'd pin it with my test blend EOD and by itself ED. Not a change. damn body! Why can't you accept the greatness I was giving you!

Originally Posted by flexxthese

Yeah I tried that. I'd pin it with my test blend EOD and by itself ED. Not a change. damn body! Why can't you accept the greatness I was giving you!

LOL- yeah- every damn day I have this conversation with my old body. I feed it all thse goodies and once and awhile it revolts and fucks me !! Find the sweet spot and all will be good-Thanks-OD

u can drink that winny bro...

Next cycle i'll try more oils in the cycle. Give me more to mix the winny with and we'll see what happens. My blends I end up doing 1/2cc eod so it may not be enough to dillute the winny when i do mix it.

Yeah i know i can drink it but it's not as effective. I'm more of a fan of injecting to get the full effect.

Just drink it. Don't make yourself suffer. If the winstrol is real it will give you noticeable results at 25-30 mg/d oral.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Just drink it. Don't make yourself suffer. If the winstrol is real it will give you noticeable results at 25-30 mg/d oral.

hmmm maybe.

Originally Posted by Justinbro

You know you can cut water base with an oil like a lava lamp, I mean if you're shooting other gear eod just mix them in the syringe.

in the quote you quoted me, i said i was doing that already...

Originally Posted by flexxthese

hmmm maybe.




in the quote you quoted me, i said i was doing that already...

lol my bad, I just read next cycle and stopped to write about the current one lol

lol it's cool. Nothing seemed to work, mixing, shooting 1/4 cc at a time, different muscles, nothing. It's been a few days and i haven't looked back. I feel great and i'm happy to be able to keep working out full force now. That was miserable.