I think Test Base usually has a pre made test prop/ tren ace/ mast p base. It might be the test prop that is giving you the PIP. It's common to be sore for a little post injection with prop.


Curious what everyone uses to pin with? Since this will be used ED I would not want to use what I currently am using.
I mixed some yesterday 100mg + added some Test on top.
Damm hurt like hell and was sore all night! Is that normal?
I think Test Base usually has a pre made test prop/ tren ace/ mast p base. It might be the test prop that is giving you the PIP. It's common to be sore for a little post injection with prop.


Generally short esters or no esters sting. Try cutting with sterile oil.


What size pin do you use? Is it ok to mix, with Test C in same injection? I though Test Sus is pure Test?
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I have never used Test suspension before but believe it is a water base. Dont think its a good idea to mix oil and water but thats just my .02
For IM shots water based solutions will easily pass through a 25g pin.
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You can mix all gear bro it's fine. Suspension should flow dine through a 22g


I use a 25 pin-the gear is oil base- not water.I inject my quads and go VERY slow- 30 count while Z tracking.I just did a cc this morning with no pip now and very little in AM.Base/ suspension is known to cause pain- but with Zbase and proper technique is minimal-OD
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Ya that's the thing about suspension bro lol! I have stayed away for a long time. I use 25 or 27g or slins





i do not think it is off other than I slamed it in with a large pin. ALL of the gear i have recieved fro Z has been to notch! I do know shorter esters seem to give me more pain, than long esters. Dont know why, but it seems to be the case. I think the next go around I will go much slower per OD recomendation. My doc once gave me an injection Test C and I was crippeled for a week! He told me it was a different base from what i recall and said some people do not react well with it. Will go to a 25G next go around and go SLOW!!!


TNE is not actually oil at all. It is very strong solvents as stated above.Suspension is water base and hurts like a bitch. But -some still call it suspension when is actually Base or TNE ( test no ester) When TNE is done correctly and you do about a 30 count and Ztrack- very little pain at all.My 2 cents-Thanks-OD
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I Love TNE! Just a little sting, no biggie.
Mixing it with Cyp is fine V.
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oh man up V lol.....pinning Ed or EOD is not for every one Im still going on this cycle pinning 225mg prop eod and its gitting old, think next blast ill use long esters... maybe
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Put it in a slin pin. Easy peasy.
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Frequent pinning blows IMO I went six months Ed or eod I ran out of spots to pin lol!


I agree with dlat on pinning. I'm pinning suspension ed and it gets annoying after a while. Only plus side is my muscles man up to the pain quicker getting hit with a no ester test every day. Sometimes I skip days if I don't feel like pinning. Throws my blood levels off and makes me go on a posting rampage....but that's a different story.....lol


And mixing waters and oils is completely fine. Helps bring down the pain and it looks like a lava lamp. A lava lamp full of POWER!


appreciate everyones input on this! Not that sore today feel much better!!!


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