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    Test Base

    Curious what everyone uses to pin with? Since this will be used ED I would not want to use what I currently am using.

    I mixed some yesterday 100mg + added some Test on top.

    Damm hurt like hell and was sore all night! Is that normal?

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    I think Test Base usually has a pre made test prop/ tren ace/ mast p base. It might be the test prop that is giving you the PIP. It's common to be sore for a little post injection with prop.

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    Generally short esters or no esters sting. Try cutting with sterile oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
    Generally short esters or no esters sting. Try cutting with sterile oil.
    Try heating up syringe before injection and massage the shit out of the inject site.Works for me

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    What size pin do you use? Is it ok to mix, with Test C in same injection? I though Test Sus is pure Test?
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    I have never used Test suspension before but believe it is a water base. Dont think its a good idea to mix oil and water but thats just my .02

    For IM shots water based solutions will easily pass through a 25g pin.

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    You can mix all gear bro it's fine. Suspension should flow dine through a 22g

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
    You can mix all gear bro it's fine. Suspension should flow dine through a 22g
    Thats what i am using, sore as shit though!!! Doing injects every week for over a year and this is the 3rd time I have been this sore!!! God if its this bad everytime dont think I can pin ED!!! LOL

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    I use a 25 pin-the gear is oil base- not water.I inject my quads and go VERY slow- 30 count while Z tracking.I just did a cc this morning with no pip now and very little in AM.Base/ suspension is known to cause pain- but with Zbase and proper technique is minimal-OD

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    Ya that's the thing about suspension bro lol! I have stayed away for a long time. I use 25 or 27g or slins

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    Quote Originally Posted by ordawg1 View Post
    I use a 25 pin-the gear is oil base- not water.I inject my quads and go VERY slow- 30 count while Z tracking.I just did a cc this morning with no pip now and very little in AM.Base/ suspension is known to cause pain- but with Zbase and proper technique is minimal-OD
    Damm, I slammed that shit in!! 6 count and best!! My first pin of base/Suspension! Will try a 25 next go around!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    Curious what everyone uses to pin with? Since this will be used ED I would not want to use what I currently am using.

    I mixed some yesterday 100mg + added some Test on top.

    Damm hurt like hell and was sore all night! Is that normal?
    Is this water based or tne? Coz water based will always hurt like a bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigD4life View Post
    Is this water based or tne? Coz water based will always hurt like a bitch
    Not always true bro I've had winny in water with no pain. It all depends on how fine the powder is in the solution. If it micronized you don't feel a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigD4life View Post
    Is this water based or tne? Coz water based will always hurt like a bitch
    Its oil base

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
    Not always true bro I've had winny in water with no pain. It all depends on how fine the powder is in the solution. If it micronized you don't feel a thing.
    Maybe I overstated a bit. I should have said the waterbased suspension I have used has always hurt lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    Its oil base
    For oil based or tne you need a mix of 4 chems to get it to hold higher than 75mg/ml. If the ratio is off, too high, on the chems percentage wise it will sting

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigD4life View Post
    For oil based or tne you need a mix of 4 chems to get it to hold higher than 75mg/ml. If the ratio is off, too high, on the chems percentage wise it will sting
    i do not think it is off other than I slamed it in with a large pin. ALL of the gear i have recieved fro Z has been to notch! I do know shorter esters seem to give me more pain, than long esters. Dont know why, but it seems to be the case. I think the next go around I will go much slower per OD recomendation. My doc once gave me an injection Test C and I was crippeled for a week! He told me it was a different base from what i recall and said some people do not react well with it. Will go to a 25G next go around and go SLOW!!!

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    TNE is not actually oil at all. It is very strong solvents as stated above.Suspension is water base and hurts like a bitch. But -some still call it suspension when is actually Base or TNE ( test no ester) When TNE is done correctly and you do about a 30 count and Ztrack- very little pain at all.My 2 cents-Thanks-OD

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigD4life View Post
    Maybe I overstated a bit. I should have said the waterbased suspension I have used has always hurt lol
    Which would be absolutely correct OD

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    I Love TNE! Just a little sting, no biggie.

    Mixing it with Cyp is fine V.
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    oh man up V lol.....pinning Ed or EOD is not for every one Im still going on this cycle pinning 225mg prop eod and its gitting old, think next blast ill use long esters... maybe




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    Put it in a slin pin. Easy peasy.
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    Frequent pinning blows IMO I went six months Ed or eod I ran out of spots to pin lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    I Love TNE! Just a little sting, no biggie.

    Mixing it with Cyp is fine V.
    will do bro, will add a few CC to it!! What is considered a slim pin? Only have used long esters

    Quote Originally Posted by chucky1 View Post
    oh man up V lol.....pinning Ed or EOD is not for every one Im still going on this cycle pinning 225mg prop eod and its gitting old, think next blast ill use long esters... maybe



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    Damm hard core! LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Latsky View Post
    Frequent pinning blows IMO I went six months Ed or eod I ran out of spots to pin lol!
    LOL

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    I agree with dlat on pinning. I'm pinning suspension ed and it gets annoying after a while. Only plus side is my muscles man up to the pain quicker getting hit with a no ester test every day. Sometimes I skip days if I don't feel like pinning. Throws my blood levels off and makes me go on a posting rampage....but that's a different story.....lol

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    And mixing waters and oils is completely fine. Helps bring down the pain and it looks like a lava lamp. A lava lamp full of POWER!

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    appreciate everyones input on this! Not that sore today feel much better!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenj View Post
    And mixing waters and oils is completely fine. Helps bring down the pain and it looks like a lava lamp. A lava lamp full of POWER!
    I don't usually pin water base, but when I do, it's always with oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by vannesb View Post
    will do bro, will add a few CC to it!! What is considered a slim pin? Only have used long ester
    SLIN PIN=Insulin Syringe

    I use a 29 gauge for base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    SLIN PIN=Insulin Syringe

    I use a 29 gauge for base.
    Thanks bro

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